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I think all of you that are suggesting that he spend his own money to rechamber this POS to a workable round are a pretty sad lot. Mossberg dumped a piece of crap on the market and then has refused to fix it 2 times. It is not up to GAHUNTER to spend his own money to fix this gun, that is Mossberg's responsibility.

At this point I would send the gun back with a letter demanding my money back. Tell them what the gunsmith found, inform them that you won't be blown off again. Tell them that you have no problem getting a lawyer involved and use your State Attorney General also as suggested.

Do not put up with that garbage, and do not try to sell this gun off to someone else. Sean
 
Posts: 537 | Location: Vermont | Registered: 04 March 2001Reply With Quote
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I think all of you that are suggesting that he spend his own money to rechamber this POS to a workable round are a pretty sad lot. Mossberg dumped a piece of crap on the market and then has refused to fix it 2 times. It is not up to GAHUNTER to spend his own money to fix this gun, that is Mossberg's responsibility.

At this point I would send the gun back with a letter demanding my money back. Tell them what the gunsmith found, inform them that you won't be blown off again. Tell them that you have no problem getting a lawyer involved and use your State Attorney General also as suggested.

Do not put up with that garbage, and do not try to sell this gun off to someone else. Sean




What you are suggesting is one course of action. I agree that Mossberg is obligated to fix it. Contacting his State Atty. General might be all he'd need to do. But if you have ever had to resort to using an attorney to obtain private justice, I sincerely doubt that you'd ever do it again! It takes forever, costs a small fortune, and most big companies can afford to outwait you. In this case it is improbable that this victim could find enough other people so situated as to be able to file a class-action suit against Mossberg.

So the alternative this guy selects boilks down to a question as to whether he cares to ever use this rifle, and if so, how soon and how much additional money does he care to allocate to the fight against the idiots at Mossberg who show no inclination to do their duty to their customers.

I think it is uncalled for you to negatively characterize people who were merely trying to suggest alternate approaches for this guy to be able use his rifle.

The simplest solution for Mossberg would be just to give him a new barrel, since the barrels are supposed to be interchageable on this model.
 
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Ive heard a lot of complaints about the SSI. Ive never had one myself but I have had trouble getting a gun fixed. Now Ive been shooting Remingtons for about 20 years. And out of all the ones Ive had and still own Ive only had to send one back. I bought one brand new model 7, for a light weight carry rifle. I tried to put a scope on it but couldnt get it to line up with a bore sighter. I was using two piece mounts, my gunsmith stuck a one peice on it and we found the problem. When the front screws were put in the rear of the mount was almost fifty thousandths up off the rear ring. Which meant the scope was canted up when mounted with two peice bases. We returned it to them explaing the problem. They sent it back with a paper saying they replaced the barrel. The scope mount was still off so we sent it back again demanding they fix the problem, exchange the rifle or refund my money for it. Three months later I got the rifle back, no paper work or nothing. The base lined up perfect, no more gap. Now the serial number was the same, but I dont beleive it was the same gun. I think they made me a new action and put the same serial number on it. I called them and asked about it and I was told they didnt show any record of them doing anything to it. They said they hadnt found anything wrong with it. I said yea right and went on my way. Put the scope on it took it to the range and it missed fired the first three rounds. Bearly left a mark on the primer. Took it to the shop and my gunsmith checked the head space, way off. I sent it back again with a very long letter mentioning selling all my Remingtons and buying Winchesters. Three weeks later I received a new rifle and a free case of ammo with a letter of apology. I guess my point is they all produce a lemon every now and then. But if I were you I would stay on their butt and make them either fix it or refund your money. But I dont think you should have to spend the moeny to corect the problem.
 
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Why should he spend his own money to fix their screw up? Why should we as consumers take the meek road?

I had a two way radio that I bought. It never worked right. 1 month after I bought it I returned it to the place where I bought (an out of state mail order business) for repair. They sent it back saying it was fixed. It was not. I returned again. They sent it back again. I had numerous phone conversations with there "service" dept. The last time I called to tell them the radio was coming back I also requested a refund. They tried to tell me that because the radio was now over a year old I could not get a refund even though I was sending it back for the same problem that they had not fixed in 3 trips back to them. I contacted my State's Attorney General and this company, after being contacted by the AG's office agreed to a refund. Basically it boiled down to the fact that if this Company wanted to continue doing business in Vt they had to give me my money back.

As to how I characterized the people that responded, see my second line in this post. GAHUNTER paying to rechamber this barrel sweeps the problem away and is very convenient for O.F. Mossberg. Why should he do that? Sean
 
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I agree with the others when they say that it is not your responsiblity to fix, it is Mossbergs. Just be persistant and all things will be made right. The idea of a lawyers letterhead would probably be best in a instance such as this. A friend of mine bought a Taurus 17 HMR last year. After shooting it a few rounds the cylinder failed to rotate completely(or something to that effect) and when the bullet left the case, instead of going down the barrel it jammed (and fragmented) between the cylinder and the frame causing damage to the gun and his minor injuries to his hand. When he spoke to Taurus, they pretty much told him they were sorry, but offered to do anything to compensate for his ruined gun or doctors bill. After several harsh talks with them, he finally said they would be hearing from his lawyer and they reconsidered and issued him a new 17 and told him they would send him another handgun of his choice (i think he went for a ragin bull 454) Anyway, I figure if you stick with it, they will make it right.
 
Posts: 66 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 08 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen,

Thanks for all your advice, but the bottom line is I don't care enough about this ever-so-cheap POS to go to a lot of trouble to fix it. Like I said, I have many, many rifles in my safe. Just rest assured that I would under no circumstances recommend anyone buying one on the used market (it has to be on the used market because Mossberg as taken the SSI out of its product line).
 
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Gentlemen,

Thanks for all your advice, but the bottom line is I don't care enough about this ever-so-cheap POS to go to a lot of trouble to fix it. Like I said, I have many, many rifles in my safe. Just rest assured that I would under no circumstances recommend anyone buying one on the used market (it has to be on the used market because Mossberg as taken the SSI out of its product line< !--color-->).




Good. The damn things were too ponderous and heavy, anyway!
 
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