I now have a 500 mag handi-rifle.

Shot a few loads in it today.

400 grain sierra

38 grains h110 = 1779
39 grains h110 = 1860
40 grains h110 = 1896

34 grains lil-gun = 1752
35 grains lil-gun = 1829
36 grains lil-gun = 1898
37 grains lil-gun = 1926

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hornady 500 grain XTP

28 grains lil-gun = 1510
29 grains lil-gun = 1545
30 grains lil-gun = 1589

33 grains H110 = 1548, 1577

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Also loaded some muzzle loader sabots.
These are the .452 250 grain sst for the 50 cal muzzle loader. 45 grains H110 for 2400 F.P.S.

these loads are for information only.always work up.

Sounds a lot like a 45/70, only with a bigger hole... The sabot'd 250 is kinda neat though. Thanks for the details.

Here's some more data, I get 1430fps with a max load of Lil'gun under the 700gr WFNGC from Ranger Rick, 2150fps with the 350gr XTP w/lil'gun also.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_1_53/ai_n16866654

http://kdm-custom-bullets.com/loaddata.html

http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

700gr WFNGC next to a 440gr CP

I did get groups with all the loads but the sabots just spray all over. They do not tumble they just don't group at all.

Interesting, and informative. We're building a 500 SW on a Wickliffe action, Montana barrel blank (we're going full octagon), etc etc. Will be interested in seeing what it does.
Walt

WOW! them is some big boolits!
how much does Ranger Rick charge for the 700gr 500's? no price on his site.

Email him, if he's not out hunting, he'll get right back to ya, I think it was about $23 shipped for 50, but I don't remember for sure.

also loaded some barnes 375 grain xpb

35 h110=1757
36 h110=1838
37 h110=1859
38 h110=1878

looks to me like 36 grains is max with not much gain in velocity from more powder. There was no signs of high pressure with any of the loads.

RMiller the Sabots spray becose the powder is to hot and burning up the sabot, I have done the same stuff with mine and recoverd my sabots and found that they are just shards of chard plastic with 19grs of LILgun and swiched to Trail Boss 14.5grs using a standerd large rifel primer works better than a Magnum primer, and it is a very nice range load I even used round balls and get 3/4"-1" grups at 50 yards with open sights.

I want to know what brass is being used with the 700gr loads becose I am cracking brand new brass with the 535gr Keith bullets and that is a low powder charge that this is happing with...

RMILLER

Post me some more speeds I am trying to get a avg of what you are getting and me as well. I talked with Mike at Hogdgon and was recomended no to use H110 in the rifle and he recomened to sub it with LilGun, I am very happy with my results but if you are getting no sings of over preser than I might try it...

post any speeds you get with LilGun and have you done any testing with 275,325gr Barns X Bullets

all the brass i have been using for my new reloads has been Hornidy Brass, every thing eals works but when you get up in that 535 gr bullets I get Cracks down the sides amd that is with 30grs of LilGun...

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I want to know what brass is being used with the 700gr loads...

Starline, good stuff.

http://www.grafs.com/metallic/product/176844

What Powder charge of LILgun where you useing with the 350gr XTPs I am trying to figer out what my 325gr Barns Xs and 275gr Barns Xs are doing Avg.

That's with Lil'gun and Hodgdon's data. I went up to their max of 42gr.

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

I have not shot my lilgun with 375 x's yet. I am going to try 30-34 grains. They are already loaded but I havent made to shoot them yet. It is dark out by the time I get home from work.

Thamks guys i have been figering % for incressed burn for FPS so I am guess in speeds of some of my loads in a rifle compared to pistol with max charges of Lil'Gun

275gr Barns X max powder charge 2380-2400 fps
325gr Barns X max powder charge 2240-2260 fps
375gr Barns X Max powder charge 1960-1990 fps

this is just a estamation by increses in speed from pistol to rifle and the a % of burn in cresse or decresse do to bullet wait...

shot the lil gun rounds.

375 barnes XPB

31--1747
32--1799
33--1935
34--1901,1905

Think I'll try more at 33 grains to see if I can get a better idea of an average at that load.

Here's some velocity and load info on the 325gr XPB..

http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,129707.msg...6.html#msg1098475666

Does anyone know Handis chamber specs, because I'm ordering reamer for rifle project and I need to decide how much freebore I need and what kind of throat angle I should get. I read Daniel Liljas article about chamber design and I have reamers available from 2,5° to 5° angle. If you have accurate barrels with commercial bullets, so I would like to know some hints about proper chamber.

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Originally posted by BUCKMT:
Interesting, and informative. We're building a 500 SW on a Wickliffe action, Montana barrel blank (we're going full octagon), etc etc. Will be interested in seeing what it does.
Walt

Could you tell a bit more?

The 500 S&W Magnum is incredible! You can take any animal on this Earth with it. I love a 700 grain WFNGC at 1250 fps. I've shot completely through a 700 lb Elk, a few large Razorbacks and a 300 lb black bear with it. I'm going to try a Bison in the near future.

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Originally posted by KDM Custom:

Absolutely perfect for suppressed rifle.