I have ruger 30 mm rings on my number 1 30/06.

It is one of my favorite rifle and is super accurate and has zeiss dyralyt scope.

I shot a whitetail with it last weekend and missed one.

I took it to the range and it is shooting 18-24 inches low and right.

The damn ruger rings are slipping.

I should never have put on the worthless rings.

I am done with ruger rings - they suck.

Mike

Your experience with Ruger rings is unusual from my experience. Assuming you mean "slipping" means the scope is sliding in the rings due to recoil and that would indicate the top half not torqued to a proper spec OR the rings themselves have a high/low spot not permitting a firm grip. That does happen on many brands of rings and solution would be to have them honed or polished to remove possible high/low spot(s.) There is a device available to do that chore using valve grinding compound and also ensure true alignment. Just a suggestion.

shooting that far off makes me think you have 77 rings not #1

The proper rings for a #1 are identical in height. The rings for the 77 bolt gun differ in height to accommodate the differing height of the front and rear receiver ring. Each Ruger ring should have a number stamped inside it. The numbers should be the same if using them on a #1.
The Duralyt scope is pretty heavy and the Ruger rings are getting lighter everytime I see a set. I would switch to Talley or Warne mounts. Worst case I would lap the inside of the Ruger rings to get as much contact as possible with the scope surface.

but of course in this case it is probably the shooter - 24" groups make him proud

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Originally posted by butchloc:
but of course in this case it is probably the shooter - 24" groups make him proud

Don't confuse me with the double rifle crew.

I expect 12 inch or better groups

Mike

I have used a lot of Ruger rings since 1968; never had one slip. In fact, they can't possibly slip. If you mean that your scope slipped then it is not the ring's fault. It is something else. I won't say what.

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Put some liquid plumbers tape on the inside of the rings and see if that helps.

Mike: Did you ever find out what your problem was?

Were these rings "lapped"?

I have been lugging the rifle around with me.

I am going to drop it of with a very knowledgeable and experienced ar member who is going to check out the rifle and replace the rings.

Mike

That sounds like a trip to northern New Jersey to see Biebs!

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That sounds like a trip to northern New Jersey to see Biebs!

Let me fill up the moat around the house!!!!

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Originally posted by Biebs:

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That sounds like a trip to northern New Jersey to see Biebs!

Let me fill up the moat around the house!!!!

It often happens to institutionalized people that they confuse the walls as being there to protect them and not the other way around

Mike

Another good option is to obtain some extremely thin sheet brass stock. Cut it to the size of the inside of your rings or a shade slimmer. Brass is Sticky and make a good interface between the ring and the scope.
I have used this on my mini apes in the head clamp that holds the handle bars to the forks on my Harley. That chrome on chrome finish would slip from time to time with a little too much moment on the handle bars. Not any more!!
You can get that brass stock thinner than aluminum foil.
I used it on a 375 Wea. that had some scope slippage issues. No more. Simple and cheap.

EZ

I have never had any problems with Ruger rings (or any other brand for that matter).

I might have just not cleaned the rifle.

Gun shot less than an Moa with 180 grain tsx factory load after it was properly cleaned by an expert rifleman.

Mike

On all the #1's I've owned, I always put Leupold rings on them. Never a problem.

Daaaammmnnn. I don't know how many shots it takes for that #1 to be come "unclean" but if being "unclean" moves the POI 18-24 inches, that SOB would not be around me long. Hard to believe.

Doesn't make since, one wonders if the rings are on backwards, that's pretty easy to do if one is not careful..Ive seen that happen several times and I fixed them..but the scope wasn't moving...

I have never heard of Ruger Rings failing, all problems were shooter related or scope failure. Ive owned a ton of Rugers over the years, their mounting system is one of the strongest I know of..Even a slipping scope would not shoot that low, maybe 4 or 5 inches at most..UNLESS ONE FAILED TO TIGHTEN THE RINGS but even then it would be unlikely.

then again a lot of folks use those bars and a graphite type media on the inside of their scope rings and that's easy to overdo.

Cleaning solved the problem of a gun shooting a foot or two off zero...That's a first!

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
I might have just not cleaned the rifle.

Gun shot less than an Moa with 180 grain tsx factory load after it was properly cleaned by an expert rifleman.

Mike

Was the TSX factory load the same one that shot 18-24 inches low and right? If not, and I concur with others here that it would be pretty much impossible for slight scope slippage in any rings to change the POI like that, then the issue may have been the ammo you were using to shoot the deer?

"properly cleaned by an expert rifleman" means what? Unless completely coppered up, modern ammo doesn't foul a barrel so much that the POI shifts 18-24".

Of course despite the scope being a good one there is always the chance that that has a problem too.

I would hate to find myself on a tramp or fly in hunt with a rifle that suddenly shot 18-24" out because it needed cleaning by an "expert rifleman"

Gun does shoot.



Mike

Mike, now move back to 25 yards :-)

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Mike, now move back to 25 yards :-)

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switch your rings put the front ring on the back of the scope and visa versa..Thats the only thing I know of short of having to surface grind the action and that's highly unlikely..I would guess it has to be human error..Slipping scope is highly unlikely unless your using a 1 inch scope in 30 MM rings, Ive seen that before.

Picture kinda indicates a mega flinch on the first shot then you settled down and shot three good shots..It happens to us all. well some of us, not me!

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Mike, now move back to 25 yards :-)

Funny sheet Biebs !