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thie rifle looks nice enough to warrant further interest. what is your opinion on the grade of wood for this stock, and about how much would one expect to pay for that grade of wood in a blank.

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6753446
 
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I like that stock. No idea what it would cost for a blank however.

Since the stock seems to have good lines perhaps most of the cost is done.

That safety looks expensive.



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I think the whole rifle is pretty nice. Really nice worksmanship, plain wood though. Just looking again and it the buttstock section has some color, all in all a nice rifle. I would ditch the one piece scope mount though and get a good set of 2 piece mounts. If my 25th wedding anniversity wasn't coming up next week, I would be bidding against you.

If you win just send it off to finish up the checkering. Me I would finish it up myself I think. I seenm to be crappy at layout but can follow a pattern pretty well.
 
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The wood to metal fit sucks! Look at the fit around the tang & around the trigger guard bow. The wood is BELOW the metal. thumbdown boohoo



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Nice stock, looks like English. I'd value the blank at about $200 to $250. However, as Doug pointed out, I think the workmanship ON the blank may not be up to par. You don't know what kind of barrel is on the action, based on caliber it may be the original barrel....it is not checkered, and you really can't tell how good the wood to metal fit is around the trigger guard, bottom metal, etc.

Bottom line, I think it is overpriced now and certainly wouldn't bid any more on it. I'd value the whole rig at about $500 BASED on what I know from the ad and pics. Personal inspection might change this up or down a hundred or so, but unless the barrel was by a top maker, I wouldn't pay what it is currently bid. But, this is just an opinion and you know what they are worth.


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I'd rate the stock semi fancy to fancy. It's as good as some I've seen on Winchester supergrades. Blanks for this can be had for $150

Add in $35 for shipping and then $200 for checkering (includes shipping of the stock both ways to checkerer and back) add in $40 for sling swivels and $50 for a rear sight..... I suspect that this gun is far overpriced at #650

Further I'd assume the barrel is Mil Surp and I'd offer no more than $350 assuming a new barrel in the future.


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Looks like someone had begun checkering it on the right side of the forarm bewildered



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Looks like someone had begun checkering it on the right side of the forarm bewildered

The auction site said the smith died before he could finish it.....


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1: that's a two position cut-from-the-shroud safety ... i don't mind them, but it's not a selling point

2: i think it's cold blued from the color

3: at least the inletting can be fixed on this one.

4: if the guy knew how to take pictures, that would appear to be a better piece of wood, though it's still "clear" on the ofside in the mag area... not a bad thing for strength

5: I HATE THAT GRIP, way too vertical, and good for nothing but getting your fingers banged, even in a 7x57

6: the "started" checkering is actually a detractor in price... aint done, cant leave it like that, and sherry get ~300 bucks to fix it.


in MY opinion, this is a servicable, salvagable gun, depending if it feeds and how well it groups, more like a 400 gunshow piece, as it's just NOT done enough to sell as whole.

that's probably a nice piece of english, and could have probably been laid out a little better when turned. 150-225 in my book, retail. just should have been laid out better

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You guys have better eyes than I have. I really can't see that this blank is fit poorly.

But now that you have brought it to my attention, to be real comfortable on this I would want to see it close up and eyeball this rifle.

A couple of other questions I would have is what mauser action, and details on the barrel. If the metal is all done right it would carry a lot of wieght in my interest level.

The stock is a project no doubt about it, close inspection would determine whether its a total PIA or somethng reletivly simple to finish..

I could get a similar blank blank from Wening for not over $300, and it might even be a grade below that, still not a bad piece of wood, but certainly not exhibition grade.

I will have to refer to Jeff's better judgemnent on the grip layout, I just can't tell from the pic, it looks OK to me. But I would heed his advice and really want to handle it before I bought it.

The pics on this are why I don't do much photography of my guns, and long rifles in particular. Getting good photo's that show the details is difficult, and most of my pictures are just about this level, I never am truelly happy with what I snap.

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That looks like a "Roberts" stock. They were out in Cal I think they went out of business or changed the name. I bought a semi finshed 25 years ago from them with those exact lines. The safety is just a conversion of the shroud. Parts are $26 plus a few minutes to fit. Looks like an above average hobbiest. Based on the 98s I have picked up at shows and the auctions I would call this $150-250 over priced.


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thie rifle looks nice enough to warrant further interest. what is your opinion on the grade of wood for this stock, and about how much would one expect to pay for that grade of wood in a blank.

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6753446


It also appears to still have the military issue trigger. I believe it would be a basis for a decent rifle, but not at the current price. I agree with ramrod - this is a $400.00 - $500.00 rifle at most since there is a lot of work left to be done. The barrelled action will have to be reblued, and the stock must be checkered since the job was started, then the stock will need finishing.


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Looks like someone had begun checkering it on the right side of the forarm bewildered


This is pointed out in the seller's description of the piece......


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