458 Lott project is almost finiished. Fired first few rounds this (nasty weather) weekend. Problem(at least for me). Gun only weighs 8.5 pounds. I would like to add 1.5 -2 pounds to rifle. Recoil reducer in rear adds weight and additional recoil reduction, but what about up front?
Thanks
Mike Allred

I rarely want to add weight but if needed I will cut a slot under the barrel channel using a 3/8 diameter endmill and epoxy in lead shot. This way you can exactly what you want and about where you want and it's permanent.....unless you wish to mill it out some day.

I do the same as vapodog on some of my groundhog rifles. Open it up under the barrel channel, pour in lead shot till it's about what you want, take the shot back out & mix it with epoxy, then pour it back in.

You have some control over balance that way, depending on where you put it.

Combined with weight in the butt (either a recoil reducer or the same lead shot deal), you can keep the rifle feeling good in your hands.

My 416 taylor came back from the smith at 8lbs 4oz. I glass bedded it as doing so I put a lb of lead shot in the bedding. It now weighs 10lbs loaded, scoped and slinged.

double check your idea - on a DG rifle you will carry it alot and shoot it little. that extra pound will feel like a ton 20 miles latter, & when you come up on that critter, you'll not notice recoil anyway. just my 2 cents worth

You should go to the hundreds of posts where guys ask about getting rid of weight...and then do the opposite!

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Originally posted by butchloc:
double check your idea - on a DG rifle you will carry it alot and shoot it little. that extra pound will feel like a ton 20 miles latter, & when you come up on that critter, you'll not notice recoil anyway. just my 2 cents worth

While I generally agree with the "don't make it too heavy" approach, I think that I'd have to have a LOT of adrenaline in my system to not notice a 8.5lb .458 Lott going off! We ain't talking about a measly .338 Win Mag or the like here...

I have a fairly light .375 H&H so I am not totally unacquainted with recoil, but a .458 Lott seems like a big step up (I have not fired a Lott, but I have shot a .460 Weatherby).

Also, I would wonder about the time to recover from recoil with a Lott so light.

All my comments assume no muzzle brake, by the way.

John

I can say from experience that an 8lb12oz 338Mag
feels like a 7lb8oz 270win when fired.

And as I've said to others; if an extra pound or two of rifle
is that much of a drag to you then mabey you should cut
out a few cheese burgers a week a couple of months before your hunt...

or almost as good buy a pair of boots that weigh 8oz less.

IMO the heavier the better, provided you don't weigh 115lb and have trouble holding the rifle up...

AllanD

Recoil is a momentary sensation...Gravity goes on forever.

Rich Elliott

Better than the lead in the forearm, you can have a recoil reducer made for the forend... same principle, just inlet it below the barrel channel and bed it in place.

http://www.mercuryrecoil.com will make one to your desired weight and diameter.

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Originally posted by Allan DeGroot

And as I've said to others; if an extra pound or two of rifle
is that much of a drag to you then mabey you should cut
out a few cheese burgers a week a couple of months before your hunt...


AllanD

Funny you should say that! At the Reno show in January I was sitting there shooting the bull with the two guys at the Leupold table and a gentleman came sauntering up to ask them some questions. I say “sauntering†but a rolling-waddle would probably be more accurate. This guy, I swear, hadn’t seen his belt or his feet in allot of years...had to weigh 350 easy and was only about 5’8†or so.

He was wanting to know the weight of every scope on the table because, according to him, he was building a “mountain-rifleâ€...like this guy could ever get up a hill, let alone a mountain...and he wanted to keep the weight as low as possible.

thanks guys, as always the advice and help are appreciated.
Mike Allred

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How to add weight?

Tex-mex at Baby A's, of course


I sure wonder what that stock on your 458 looks like?


bird shot and epoxy in the forearm, and then counterweight it with lead in the buttstock

9#12 is a good target



jeffe

Jeffe
Will try to email pictures to you soon. Would post but......
Mike Allred

Mike 458 Lott

Jeffe
Yeah, thats the stock you did for me. It turned out nice. It will look even better once the metal gets finished. Thanks for posting the pics.
Mike Allred