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I’m not sure if I want to actually do this or not, but I’m considering it and need advice. I have a Win Model 70 Super Grade in 30-06. I had the stock professionally bedded and the gun shoots very well. I went w/the Super Grade because I wanted a wood stock. Well, with the wood stock comes weight. This gun is heavy! Best I can tell it’s pushing 9 ¾ lbs. and that’s just to much for the everyday type hunting I do. So I’m considering ditching the wood stock and going with a Bansner. How much weight will I shave off going with the Bansner? I figure it would be over 1 lb., maybe even as much as 1.5 lb. and I think that would really liven up this rifle. Next question is, if I decided to sell the wood stock, what is it worth? It’s a very nice piece of wood in nearly 100 % shape and was pillar bedded at Penrod Precision. Selling it would help offset the cost of the new stock, but on the other hand if I kept it I could always swap back and forth depending on what floated my boat. Thanks. | ||
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Personally I'd trade it for a featherweight before I did that. It's up to you.....you're about right on the one pound guess.....but I'd say no more than that. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Well with that extra weight in the gun, you work harder to carry it, which probably equates to 2-5lbs of weight loss after a whole hunting season of hiking around with it. Oh, you meant the gun?  Formerly "the444shooter" I think I had about 73,000 posts before I had to re-register  God Bless and Shoot Straight God is a comedian playing to an audience afraid to laugh--Voltaire | |||
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I would just sell the whole gun and get a featherweight built the way you want it. Unfortunately you will take a beating on the stock. | |||
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I wish I had a barrel full of super grade stocks and ebay bidders  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7175473468&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Oh yea, I'd sell the gun too. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Well...before I did anything I wouldn't guess...i would weigh the stock by itself an ask Bansner how much his weigh Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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My rifles weigh in at 9.5lb all up. Sometimes I curse when they start to weigh me down, then I remember how rock steady they have been when my heart has been pumping like mad because a fantastic buck is looking straight at me after I just crawled a couple of hundred yards to get a shot and am sweating, panting etc. It's easy to swap shoulders, it's bloody hard to stop a lighter rifle shaking..... | |||
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well, let's frame this. factory rifles, unstocked, weigh normally 7ish to 9ish. Like Mike suggested, take the gun out of the stock and weigh full action with scope and stock (each).. an extremly light stock (you'll PAY for that) is 18oz. in carbon fiber/kevlar I had a fella ask for his 300 weatherby to not weigh 10.5#... okay.. got the lightest "normal" synth stock, saved about 9oz... then he complained it kicked far worse... "here's your old stock, buhbye" jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I have a super grade take off stock in my shop and I just weighed it. It does not have the sling swivel studs or the butt plate and it weighs 2.26 pounds. Take it from there. | |||
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Jeffe, I think the lightest stock currently available for more than one action is the Lone Wolf Summit XL at 12 oz. with pad and swivel studs. Limited action choice and barrel contour #1, though. The Summit comes in at 16 oz. and will fit a broad selection of actions and barrels to #4 contour. Melvin Forbes stocks at NULA may be lighter but they are only available for his guns and the Colt Light Rifle. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Thanks Customstox, that's what I was looking for. I don't have a scale to accurately measure the weight of my stock. With your info it looks like a 1 lb. loss is doable. Still not sure if I want to go this route. I like the look and fit of this stock. Maybe rebarreling to a caliber more fitting of the rifles weight would make more sense. I've been thinking about a 9.3x62 anyway.... | |||
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Wyatt, There may be a bit of confusion on my part. Mine is a pre 64 Super Grade stock. I doubt if there would be a lot of difference in weight. I would hope you would not rebarrel a pre 64 super grade. If you did a bunch of us would descend on your home and burn a cross on your lawn, but only after we tied you to it. | |||
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It's a 2004 model... | |||
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Have you considered a compromise? I know some will grill me for this, but if you really like the Super Grade stock, you could lighten it a bit. If the barrel is not already free-floated, you could remove some wood from the under barrel area. And you could remove some wood from inside the butt area. Both can be done with compromising the integrity of the stock. Also, make sure the length of pull is right for you AND the clothes you'll be wearing. trimming the LOP will also take some weight off the gun. | |||
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Wyatt, I'd go the featherweight route. It's the only way to get an M70 even remotely light. I've had a bunch and have never had a complaint regarding accuracy. My current one groups scary small and is fitted in a Bansner. The stock (with .8" Decelerator not 1.0") weighs 25 oz's exactly. The whole rifle with scope (2x7 Leup in all-steel mounts), sling (Uncle Mikes Mtn Sling) and five rounds goes 8lbs. Mine has a 21" barrel and open sights. The same rifle with the un-cut 22" barrel and no sights will go 7lbs 14 oz's. Your rifle in a Bansner will weigh, depending on the scope and sling you use, 8lb 10 oz's on the low side and 9lbs on the high side.  | |||
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