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Does anyone know if the pre-64 Model 70 extractor and collar will fit the post-64 CRF Model 70. I have a few of the former and none of the latter.
 
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Extractor yes. Collar, I have no idea; kind of doubt it though.


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The post 64 controlled feed collars are a bit different in that they have a protrusion that captures a little gadget that's purpose is to deflect any excaping gass down the left lug raceway.



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Part of the extractor assembly on my M70 LH 375 Safari Express broke and jammed the bolt. It was cast. I can't recall which part broke. Ed Lapour (Bremerton, WA, ACGG)) repolaced it with a forged part. (Wisner?) Ed said that the gas blocking "gadget" was an unnecessary lawyer part and left it out. That was 20 years and hundreds of rounds ago.
 
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I know I had that little gas block get loose or break and lock up the bolt on the first 416 I had.

But in what has to be thousands of rounds since, in almost twenty other Winchester Classics I have never had it happen again! Kinda like the bolt handle coming loose, it doesn't happen often, but when it does you are up the creek!
 
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I replaced the extractor on my 375 H&H Classic with a Wisner stainless part when my gun was brand new.

I can't remember now why it was important to do that but at the time I thought that I should.


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I seem to recollect reports of New Haven releasing a batch of brittle extractors years ago that could potentially break at an inopportune time; installing the forged Wisner extractor was the recommended solution.


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fwiw,
Wisner claims he never made a Post-64 Classic Spring Steel Extractor nor does he have any plans to do so. He does make Pre-64 extractors...

PME is the company I bought the one for my first .375 H&H from and they have since gone out of business.

Just talked to Wisner's the other day on this very issue...fwiw

Regards, Matt.
 
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I thought it was a Wisner replacement but obviously not. Confused Now I have no idea who the mfg was...


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Williams from Brownell's among others.


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If the gun is yours and you already have the part, why not just try it? Not trying to be a smart-a, but sometime I miss the obvious too.


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I have purchased new extractors directly from Williams Firearms in the past. Web site:

http://www.williamsfirearms.co...hester-products.html


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Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
fwiw,
Wisner claims he never made a Post-64 Classic Spring Steel Extractor nor does he have any plans to do so. He does make Pre-64 extractors...

PME is the company I bought the one for my first .375 H&H from and they have since gone out of business.

Just talked to Wisner's the other day on this very issue...fwiw

Regards, Matt.


Well, I can't blame it all on my age, I just turned 58 yesterday. I would have sworn that I bought it from Jim.


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Jim Wisner and PME are the same guy!


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Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
fwiw,
Wisner claims he never made a Post-64 Classic Spring Steel Extractor nor does he have any plans to do so. He does make Pre-64 extractors...

PME is the company I bought the one for my first .375 H&H from and they have since gone out of business.

Just talked to Wisner's the other day on this very issue...fwiw

Regards, Matt.


Wisner has lost his memory then. When I get home I'll photograph one still in his packaging.
 
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Does anyone have any experience with Midwest Gun Works? They advertise original Winchester parts, for what that's worth.
 
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OK, it's my memory not Jim's

Here's a photo of my original blue steel extractor in the William's bag that my replacement SS one came in.



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