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06 March 2016, 01:55
xausa
Post 64 Model 70 CRF extractors/extractor collars
Does anyone know if the pre-64 Model 70 extractor and collar will fit the post-64 CRF Model 70. I have a few of the former and none of the latter.
06 March 2016, 02:46
airgun1
Extractor yes. Collar, I have no idea; kind of doubt it though.


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06 March 2016, 04:13
D Humbarger
The post 64 controlled feed collars are a bit different in that they have a protrusion that captures a little gadget that's purpose is to deflect any excaping gass down the left lug raceway.



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06 March 2016, 16:22
Brice
Part of the extractor assembly on my M70 LH 375 Safari Express broke and jammed the bolt. It was cast. I can't recall which part broke. Ed Lapour (Bremerton, WA, ACGG)) repolaced it with a forged part. (Wisner?) Ed said that the gas blocking "gadget" was an unnecessary lawyer part and left it out. That was 20 years and hundreds of rounds ago.
06 March 2016, 21:07
Ongwe
I know I had that little gas block get loose or break and lock up the bolt on the first 416 I had.

But in what has to be thousands of rounds since, in almost twenty other Winchester Classics I have never had it happen again! Kinda like the bolt handle coming loose, it doesn't happen often, but when it does you are up the creek!
17 March 2016, 09:17
Fjold
I replaced the extractor on my 375 H&H Classic with a Wisner stainless part when my gun was brand new.

I can't remember now why it was important to do that but at the time I thought that I should.


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19 March 2016, 22:00
capoward
I seem to recollect reports of New Haven releasing a batch of brittle extractors years ago that could potentially break at an inopportune time; installing the forged Wisner extractor was the recommended solution.


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20 March 2016, 15:47
Matt in Virginia
fwiw,
Wisner claims he never made a Post-64 Classic Spring Steel Extractor nor does he have any plans to do so. He does make Pre-64 extractors...

PME is the company I bought the one for my first .375 H&H from and they have since gone out of business.

Just talked to Wisner's the other day on this very issue...fwiw

Regards, Matt.
21 March 2016, 08:33
capoward
I thought it was a Wisner replacement but obviously not. Confused Now I have no idea who the mfg was...


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21 March 2016, 12:09
airgun1
Williams from Brownell's among others.


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21 March 2016, 16:59
loud-n-boomer
If the gun is yours and you already have the part, why not just try it? Not trying to be a smart-a, but sometime I miss the obvious too.


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21 March 2016, 21:41
ddsipe
I have purchased new extractors directly from Williams Firearms in the past. Web site:

http://www.williamsfirearms.co...hester-products.html


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25 March 2016, 04:05
Fjold
quote:
Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
fwiw,
Wisner claims he never made a Post-64 Classic Spring Steel Extractor nor does he have any plans to do so. He does make Pre-64 extractors...

PME is the company I bought the one for my first .375 H&H from and they have since gone out of business.

Just talked to Wisner's the other day on this very issue...fwiw

Regards, Matt.


Well, I can't blame it all on my age, I just turned 58 yesterday. I would have sworn that I bought it from Jim.


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"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
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25 March 2016, 19:39
Jim Kobe
Jim Wisner and PME are the same guy!


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25 March 2016, 22:28
Chuck Nelson
quote:
Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
fwiw,
Wisner claims he never made a Post-64 Classic Spring Steel Extractor nor does he have any plans to do so. He does make Pre-64 extractors...

PME is the company I bought the one for my first .375 H&H from and they have since gone out of business.

Just talked to Wisner's the other day on this very issue...fwiw

Regards, Matt.


Wisner has lost his memory then. When I get home I'll photograph one still in his packaging.
26 March 2016, 01:18
xausa
Does anyone have any experience with Midwest Gun Works? They advertise original Winchester parts, for what that's worth.
26 March 2016, 07:30
Fjold
OK, it's my memory not Jim's

Here's a photo of my original blue steel extractor in the William's bag that my replacement SS one came in.




Frank



"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953

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26 March 2016, 10:04
Chuck Nelson