I like the bolt handle and ejector box work, seriously.. the ejector box is a bit of work to get to this point

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=35732054

Holy COW

a 500 asquare on an RMF lam THUMBHOLE enfield with a scope BEHIND the rear of the bolt, on a 500 a2...

quote:

custom reason impregnated

All that for only $4100 !

It just goes to show that a little bit of knowledge is dangerous.

Not even close to deserving the award.

I submit this one for your careful examination. Particularly Springfield aficonados.

GV

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976612967.htm

GV

looks like someone started with a box of mismatched parts and it went downhill from there,
the dogleg "add-aleg-to-me" bolt handle is WEIRD.. but only 1/2 as weird as the straightened enfield bottom metal (i understand this used to happen with big bore mauser alot)...

. and that a person took a scant stock, carved it from there, and stuck some buckthorn sights on it... it a patch of checkering..

well, wow..

but it didn't have a scoped mounted too far back on a 1/5 bore, this a custom REASON impregnated stock!!! (i think if you snuggled up to that scope and pulled the trigger you'ld have a REASON not to shoot it again, imgregnated in your head.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
looks like someone started with a box of mismatched parts and it went downhill from there,
the dogleg "add-aleg-to-me" bolt handle is WEIRD.. but only 1/2 as weird as the straightened enfield bottom metal

Heh Heh....

Check closely......that's an Enfield bolt.

I once heard a story that at the end of the Sedgley, Enfield and Springfield leftovers were cobbled together into rifles. Never saw one before.

Does the Springfield ejector match an Enfield bolt?

GV

How about this stock?



or this

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Originally posted by 500grains:
How about this stock?

Well, I'm not a great laminate fan.......but I don't find that stock shape or style objectionable on the first one.

Thumbhole stocks are a matter of personal preference.

Can't even say the carved roll-over is really ugly. It surely was the bees knees in the 50's.

GV

As attractive as the checkering on the Springfield is, I had never really appreciated the combination of rosewood on a green laminate stock until I saw the Enfield.

Jeffe, it just needs see through rings and it would be fine

So Jeffe, how is the stock laminating projects coming along?

Isn't it true that you developed the 550 Express for the sole purpose of making holes in quarter saw blanks for "Thumb hole" stocks?
Isn't also true you are developing a laminated thumb hole stock for the new "African Selous PH" model Marlin KATW 45/70?

And all the while you are in secret negotiating with Art Alpin for the new 243A2 that shoots the GS driving banded depleted uranium cupped point bullets with water drops bonded to the cup points to increase penetration? Working name is the H,IWT-EK243?

Billy,
are "game savers" any higher than burris extra highes? I guess that ole boy was scared of getting the scope in his eye socket, and figured in the skull was better.


I watched mike take on in the forehead from his little bullpup 50bmg just like that!!!


Rusty,
I am sad to report, Art and I have parted ways. He challenged me that no man needed anything as large as the 243A2, and when I wanted to name it the 244 express he thought that large of a name would scare the lever gun guys off the project.

also, I have given up on the stock lamination project. I was under the impression that "troll" brains had to be the strongest bonding agent in the known universe, due to their irrational ability to cling to a notion, even once all factual and emotion content was debunked as well as their inherent clinging to forums ability.

Well, after much field research, I have come to sullen conclusion that I would have to recover 2.831x10^27 trolls to have enough brain for a ruger 10/22 laminate stock...



Good news, though, I have negotiated with a well known bullet maker to start producing the perfect african DG bullet for the 45/70 .

I am calling it the LEVERKING.. it's a saboted, flat pointed .375 matchking bullet for the 45/70 made from the same depleted uranium you mentioned, weighing 450 grains, going 2200 FPS from a marlin quide gun. while the SD will be very high, I am told by reknown experts that SD is a myth anyway,

As these are a matchking/flatpoint design, there was really no need to do this, but the bullets are reversed hollowpoints, drilled from the rear. You know, it seems like a good idea, get the bullet weight down a little, and back a few extra grains of powder UP the drilled in the rear to act as even more case capacity for the bullets. have a large gape in the rear effectively removes the requirement for deep seating of bullets well down the throat. While you could have both the drilled in the rear and bullets a long way down the throat, that sounds mighty risky to me, and is probably best left to those who demand the finest 45/70 lever gun for africa.

It seemed to make perfect sense to me, that if a fella wanted to take a 45/70 loaded hot, that drilled from the rear seemed to go hand in hand with that... so, these bullets, both being the energy level required AND amazingly fragable, are the perfect dangerous game lever gun, with the shooter using the patented "drilled from the rear" bullets.


recoil is, well, fierce, and I have been using my new titanium stock with the stock marlin "ridge" buttpad to split these dried mopane logs I got form africa. I just line up the stock with a quarter sawn approach, place the buttstock firmly on the wood, aim the muzzle in a safe direction.... bang...



Rusty,
The 550 express is only used on mopane quarter sawn blanks, for making 404 stocks...

jeffe

I'm in danger of suffering a stroke after viewing all those pictures. What next? Are we going to start taking pictures of nekkid prisoners in Iraq?

I could make a sows ear out of any of them silk purses.

Uh errr, what?

Rojelio

When I grow up, Ima gonna build me a rifle just like that one for them big alefants!

Seriously, is this guy on drugs asking $4,100 for that thing?

that is overpriced for that gun, you could have it done for less in a much better way. I looked it up, this TJ'S gun smith is in southern california, might explain some of the why to its design. (310) 558-4445 tempting to call and ask them what their idea was when doing it. It's kind of like the reverse of what we're doing with the 416 Taylor project, taking an 03a3 and doing all the best things we can think of to make it a great rifle. They took a good action and did all the s*&t things they could think of to make it some sacriligeous icon.

Let's say there was a reason to put a thumbhole stock on an African hunting rifle (aside of course from the obvious ease of handling and speed of bolt operation) They still did a poor job on the crossbolts. Why a 30" barrel?

Now, maybe this was somebody down there wanting a 50 cal that wasn't a BMG to hopefully compete in some sort of big bore competition.

Red

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I like the bolt handle and ejector box work, seriously.. the ejector box is a bit of work to get to this point

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=35732054

Holy COW

a 500 asquare on an RMF lam THUMBHOLE enfield with a scope BEHIND the rear of the bolt, on a 500 a2...

quote:

custom reason impregnated

And, I note that the public is just stomping all over one another to get to bid on this honker before the auction ends......


ASbout the worst thing I ever saw in the way of stock carving was a wild boar with a ruby eye and real ivory tusks embellishing the side of a converted military 8X57 M98 stock.....

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Originally posted by Dago Red:...I looked it up, this TJ'S gun smith is in southern california, might explain some of the why to its design. (310) 558-4445 tempting to call and ask them what their idea was when doing it....Red

mock us as you will here in So Cal, I am glad there is at least one gun in Venice, the fact that there are more than one makes me quite happy. there is no need to call him and make fun of him, he's actually making and selling guns, something many here on the internet, and in gun stores, talk much about but don't really do.

sorry he and his work is not up to your standards, perhaps he should have asked your permission first.

Different strokes for different folks but that rifle, regardless of taste is simply a ripoff. Check out the flat washer used as a shim for the rear of the base.

Good eye, Dempsey...
i emailed the lister with a $400 offer, told him it's parts... and that he could keep the stock, scope, and rings..

he told me someone had paid full price for the "twin" of this one, and was perfectly happy..

I sent him the link of washer, asked if it had the same washer for elevation, and told him to look out for a guy with an ice pack on his forehead, as he had a 39" club (30" barrel, 7.5"action, 1.5" stock stub") to beat him with!!!

jeffe

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Originally posted by El Deguello:
And, I note that the public is just stomping all over one another to get to bid on this honker before the auction ends......

Hey, the seller is sig380. That should tell you enough. This guy has been NOTORIOUS all over the wide 'Net, for years. He is a legend in his own right.

Carcano

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Originally posted by dempsey:
Check out the flat washer used as a shim for the rear of the base.

That is vellly unplofessional.
True cushtum gunsmiths take multiple layers of duct tape instead, so you can adjust height finely, and have a shock-resistant scope bedding (or so it's called...).
:-D

Carcano

Wow Delloro, bit sensitive about socal jokes huh? I didn't ay I was going to call and make fun of him, said I was thinking about calling to find out WHY they would do that.

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sorry he and his work is not up to your standards, perhaps he should have asked your permission first. Roll Eyes

I don't think the work is up to the standards of anybody that knows very much about guns. but he doesn't need to ask my permission, I'm not paying him so he can do whatever he likes, if he had wanted to call and ask for some advice I would have been happy to help out.

Guys, I don't know if that is a washer for elevation. Might be that is how he filled the duck pond on the Enfield, the metal might not have taken the bluing. If that is same as the base I had on one of my winchester 1917's it only has one rear screw and it is just behind the clip slot in front of the duck pond.

Red

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Originally posted by Dago Red:
Wow Delloro, bit sensitive about socal jokes huh? Red

yes, I am sick and tired of the liberal freaks down here and the people that take overly broad swipes at all of us down here on their account.

it gets old

quote:

Originally posted by delloro:

quote:

Originally posted by Dago Red:
Wow Delloro, bit sensitive about socal jokes huh? Red

yes, I am sick and tired of the liberal freaks down here and the people that take overly broad swipes at all of us down here on their account.

it gets old

Hey...I live in So. Cal and we have as many good old red-necks here as anywhere...and there’s a ton of guns in Venice, hell you can buy them on street corners and out of the trunks of cars...and you don’t even have to fill out all that damned paper work like you do elsewhere!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

ugly rifle of the day award

carcano91

What do you make of this

Cheers
/JOHAN

quote:

Originally posted by JOHAN:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

ugly rifle of the day award

carcano91

What do you make of this

Cheers
/JOHAN

Personally, I think they are about the most “Butt-Ugly†rifles ever made...but I have a friend that ownes one and he loves it. I guess that’s why they have Chocolate and Vanilla, and Blondes and Brunettes!

Those dang galvanized washers just don't take blue very well.

When mine comes out of the gunsmith's shop about the middle of next month, I'll do the hippy-hippy shakes to get some pictures of it posted, and I'll blow all of you lightweights away. That Enfiled thing will look like Miss America compared to mine. But then I didn't build it to look at it, I built it to shoot it. At small targets. A long way away.

At last, someone has built a rifle for taking Rhino's @ 400 + yds. Now if we could just figure how to spot them in the tall grass from tree stands at that range..

Freaking hillarious!

I don't mind a laminated stock in English styling, with cross bolts fully glassed, and in the standard wood color...or a piece of Turkish laminated by the late Mel Smart..Nice for a hard use rifle..Laminate must be properly finished and sealed like any wood...but the bottom line is I can't keep one, I sell them because they ain't nice Turkish, French or European walnut which I like...

I think that is a washer some models of the p17 dont have the duck pond the winchester does not but the eddystone and rem do they all have a threaded hole there for the rear sight the dude used a base that is to short and drilled the front to match. if he had welded up the pond it would surely show.

Not even close

That's a nice rifle!

Honestly, I keep coming back to this thread to see if anything I've ever owned is going pop up on the screen HA!


Terry

Crusher,

I think you've got it mixed, I've never had an Eddystone so can't speak for those. Rem. was the first to stop using the duck pond, which was actually put there to reduce the warping in the bridge due to the original heat treating process. With a new technique it was no longer needed and Rem. got rid of it first. Actually to be accurate I think they both got the new heat treat process going at the same calendar time but Win. had higher production numbers so you see it in higher numbered action versus the Rem. which started using it at a lower serial #. So you will find many more win's with it than without. I have had 2 winnies (still have one which actually was filled in really nicely and won't matter since I'll have integral bases put on it) that both had it, I have a Rem. that didn't. As far as the Enfields go the Remingtons were the better of the bunch.

Red

Odies Dad,

With a first post like that your gonna make a lot of friends here. Welcome to AR!

How about we make this interesting, I would guess that some of us in our early years did some work that might not be what we would do today, anybody want to post some of there early work or something of that nature.

Odies Dad,
Nice rifle! How much you want for the rug?

Holy crap Odies Dad,

That rifle is awesome! He has really up'd the ante. Can anyone beat it?

Wes

Everybody is trying to be nice to Odie's Dad. You all know add on pistol grips automatically disqualifies you in this competition, since technically it's a two piece stock.

I've done some stuff I'm not too proud of, but generally didn't take pictures.