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Roosevelt's Springfield?
30 August 2006, 21:29
Bill/OregonRoosevelt's Springfield?
Anyone have a URL for a photo or description of the 1903 Springfield sporter built for Teddy Roosevelt, or for Stewart Edward White?
Many thanks.
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30 August 2006, 21:39
Michael PetrovRoosevelt Springfield made at Springfield Armory.
30 August 2006, 21:44
Michael Petrov
30 August 2006, 22:42
jeffeossoMichael,
whicch one? (not being a jerk, just want to know) those are two VERY different stocks... the foreend tip and checkering pattern's are totally different.
30 August 2006, 22:50
Michael Petrovquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Michael,
whicch one? (not being a jerk, just want to know) those are two VERY different stocks... the foreend tip and checkering pattern's are totally different.
Sorry, I don’t understand your question. The Roosevelt rifle was made at Springfield Armory and the White rifle was made by Ludwig Wundhammer in Los Angeles.
30 August 2006, 23:48
Bill/OregonMichael: Greatly appreciate it. Looks like Springfield Armory attached a fairly standard rear sporting sight on the Roosevelt gun, but it appears Wundhammer left the original military rear on White's rifle, and added a Lyman 48. Also appears that both rifles retain the unaltered military bolt handle.
There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
31 August 2006, 01:53
Michael Petrovquote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Michael: Greatly appreciate it. Looks like Springfield Armory attached a fairly standard rear sporting sight on the Roosevelt gun, but it appears Wundhammer left the original military rear on White's rifle, and added a Lyman 48. Also appears that both rifles retain the unaltered military bolt handle.
If I remember correctly (too lazy to look it up) TR ask for a Winchester rear sight on his sporter.
E.C. Crossman and his editor cooked up the idea of converting a 1903 Springfield into sporting rifle. They made five rifles at about the same time and published the work in three articles. White, Weld and Rodgers elected to leave the sight base left on theirs, Crossman and Colby had theirs removed. These were some of the first custom commercial sporting rifles made on the 1903. The rear sight is a Lyman-Crossman No. 34 , Crossman had five of these sight made for this project.
31 August 2006, 05:59
PAUL J.A.mike,
these are no doubt some of the the rarest springfield rifles and the styling is just right , plain and simple lines but in my opinion ,mike your "george gibbs" takes the cake.....paul
bill,a springfield like one that you mentioned crossman,or wundhammer make for nice easy projects to duplicate if thats what yout thinking...paul
31 August 2006, 06:27
jeffeossoMike,
thanks for clearing that up for me...
EXCELLENT pics
31 August 2006, 20:19
Bill/OregonPaul: Fashioning an early-style Springfield sporter is exactly what I am up to, as I just swapped for a neglected SA in the 900,000 range, drilled and tapped for the Lyman sight. Now to just find a proper stock -- perhaps the Griffen and Howe iron sight model from Great American Gunstocks?
There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
31 August 2006, 20:33
CustomstoxJeffe,
The Roosevelt rifle had "Roosevelt Springfield made at Springfield Armory." above the photo and the other had White Wundhammer -2 on the photo. I can understand where you would be confused.

01 September 2006, 00:40
duikermanquote:
Originally posted by Customstox:
Jeffe,
The Roosevelt rifle had "Roosevelt Springfield made at Springfield Armory." above the photo and the other had White Wundhammer -2 on the photo. I can understand where you would be confused.
Another worthless and demeaning post by Customstox.
Have you lived past the age of six yet? Grow up!!!!!
01 September 2006, 07:51
PAUL J.A.bill if the barrel is good on the gun your getting your project is almost halfway there a nice barrel band sling swivel look at the early g&h style it can be copied easily ,you can pick up a hooded barrel band front sight from wisner or recnagel there are a few out there ,lyman 48 should be easy to find at a gun show bottom metal stays which is what is nice about this project try to find an early hodel 70 butt plate it was common to find these on some sporters i have 2 g&h with them. do you have mikes book? ........paul