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Has anyone taken weight off of a Ruger Mark II long action?...how much does it weigh "as issued" and how much material were you able to machine off? | ||
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I'm no gunsmith but trimming metal away from a CAST action can't be good. In anycase the only thing keeping you alive with high pressure loads is the strength of the action, I wouldn't be touching it. You can save a lot of weight changing the stock and getting a thinner barrel profile or even deep flutes. Lets hear from the experts but I recon leave the action, just use lighter accessories. regards S&F | |||
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They are investment cast of alloy steel not 'cast iron' .No problem in cutting the steel. | |||
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It's an investment casting and can be selectively machined, like any other, without compromising any strength. In reality the only critical part of the action is the bolt lug recesses. If it wasn't needed to mount a scope, hold the back end of the bolt, or, house the trigger assembly, it could be discarded. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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iirc, 2.5#, bolt, actions, trigger and bottom .. i doubt you could get 3 oz off it. getting light weight rings is actually more of a weight saving I myself, wouldn't use one as the basis for an ultralight ... #dumptrump opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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As someone smarter than I said....it's probably a lot easier (and cheaper) to lose three pounds of fat off your stomach than three ounces of metal off your rifle! But seriously the cheapest solution is either to cut 1" off the barrel and/or remove material from the inside of the forestock and remove the buttplate, drill the buttstock, then replace the buttplate. Or reduce the barrel O/D. | |||
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Years ago turned a Ruger 338wmag into a just over 7# rifle. After doing a lot of checking what I found was the quickest, easiest and by far cheapest was to shorten the barrel, reduce the taper and stick it in a 1# syntheticn stock. When you get to the action it simply takes a LOT of work and $$ to remove an oz or two. By the way it was about the hardest kicking rifle I ever had. Sold it here on AR to someone that wouldn't believe me about the recoil. Now he does.  As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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15 lb dumbells, 25 reps per day, curl and butterfly. | |||
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Strengthen your core muscles too. Your back has to deal with the weight cantilevered by your arms. | |||
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I was seeking advise from David Kaiser (Sp?) of Brownell's on lightweight rifle trying to get it down to 6 3/4 lbs scoped and loaded...his advice was... Go to the gym... Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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lots of advice here,...now if anyone knows anything about lightening a Ruger action...never mind,..I traded the rifle for a 6.5-20X Leupold....I'll build my left handed son a lightweight on a 700 action....a Gaillard stainless .284" Mountain Rifle tube, judicious application of my 7mm-08 reamer and a McMillan Edge...presto...6-1/2 lb left hand hunting rifle.... | |||
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Well I know now that David of Brownell's should stick to rifles as he knows little of athletics, fitness and strength. To a sheep hunter who trains like an athlete and who's fitness level is in the measured top 1%; if that person's prefered rifle weight for a particular application was 6 3/4-pounds, 7 1/2 pounds would be heavier than prefered. No matter your strength or endurance, if you have a prefered weight in a bat, a competitive mountain bike, a tennis racket, or a rifle for a particular application; losing body weight will accomplish ZERO at satisfying that preference for tackle weight. A person of a higher fitness level may have the capacity to tolerate heavier tackle, but that is not the same as the prefered tackle weight of the individual for the application at hand. Best  | |||
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yes .. and you might not have understood the message "don't do it, no return on effort .. otherwise, drill, baby, ,drill" #dumptrump opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I am hoping that Williams will machine a quality set of trim and slim Ruger ringmounts that sheds some weight over the current available slugs. Like the others noted, take the weight from scope, ringmounts, barrel and stock. Don't waste time and money on the action. | |||
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Fix your values then | |||
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