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31 July 2020, 11:49
Saeed
What Do You Think Of This?
Thoughts?


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31 July 2020, 14:02
30.06king
Looks like the original barrel was replaced with some sort of plain pipe.
But, what's the point anyway ? Trying to prove what....??


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31 July 2020, 16:08
Bobster
Maybe they could market it to anarchists.
31 July 2020, 16:33
sambarman338
Oblivious of the stupid experiment, that was the most horrible news site I've ever seen, so chock full of BS advertising you could hardly click anywhere without summoning some crap you didn't want.
31 July 2020, 17:06
jeffeosso
here's the actual video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMx-bfasz5I
it's pretty amazing .. and remember, Matt is a youtuber, with an amazing back story, and does frequent "destructive testing" videos

it worked.. i was amazed .. not only did it work, it worked several times...

then he shot a 45 though and along PVC..

watch it for yourself .. it's crazy


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31 July 2020, 17:07
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by sambarman338:
the most horrible news site I've ever seen, so chock full of BS advertising you could hardly click anywhere without summoning some crap you didn't want.


install "ghostery" in your browser


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31 July 2020, 18:16
DManson
All in the name of Science.
31 July 2020, 20:02
nopride2
I read in WW2 the Germans bent a rifle barrel 90 degrees for shooting around corners.

Dave
31 July 2020, 20:06
dpcd
Not stupid at all; that is how inventions are invented; dong stupid things can create good ones. Not in this case though because it has been done before. I would have made the curve a bit more gentle though.
What the Germans had was two versions of the Krummerlauf, (curved barrel) one an MP43 and the other was a VG1; couldn't bend a Kar98k due to all the wood up there. They had mirror sights; too; these were experimental things.
The barrels were bent about 45 degrees or so.
Look up Krummerlauf and you might find it; I didn't .
31 July 2020, 20:52
xausa
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:

Look up Krummerlauf and you might find it; I didn't .


Possibly because the word is "Krummlauf". There's a whole Wikipedia article plus a bunch of photos about it available through Google.
31 July 2020, 21:46
dpcd
I meant I didn't look it up. So I just googled Krummerlauf, you still get the same results. I do see that there was an STG44 version too. I had one once, not the crooked barrel one though.
First word I ever misspelled in my life and it wasn't even an English word. Won't happen again. My English Teacher Mother is spinning in her grave about now. No slack.
31 July 2020, 22:20
sjmci
New York will probably outlaw these now.
01 August 2020, 01:51
IOWADON
One of my friends told me how his father was at a military range during WWII and his sargent told him to shoot a bolt action .30-06 with a bent barrel. He refused saying it was dangerous and his sargent made fun of him and shot it to prove it was not dangerous and that my friend's father was just a coward. The bolt came back out of the action and killed the sargent. Don't know if his father told him a true story or not but my friend is not a bullshitter.
01 August 2020, 02:06
Michael Robinson
Saeed, I think you are probably the only person on the planet who both owns a firearm and reads the Daily Mail!

As for what I think . . . I'd say it was a pointless experiment with a useless result! But that could just be me . . . .


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01 August 2020, 02:12
Rolland
I remember reading somewhere that the US Army did that with a M3 Grease gun.
https://www.guns.com/news/2018...-inside-a-tank-video


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01 August 2020, 02:34
dpcd
What was the degree of bend in the Springfield?
01 August 2020, 03:17
custombolt
SS barrels are tough. Where's the bullet? Bet the bullet (quite long) came out very slow and was cracked or broken from the tight radius of that barrel. The big black powder burn suggests that. A much less powerful round probably would have gotten stuck at the curve. Should have cronied the bullet at the end of the muzzle.
What say you Saeed?


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01 August 2020, 03:29
richj
https://youtu.be/4xfYfgpjtws
01 August 2020, 03:38
ZekeShikar
Something will always "give" if it's a full load of powder. The expanding gasses are plenty powerful to make something happen regardless of the cartridge.
1- Bullet comes out (which it did)
2- barrel blows up
3- bolt blows up

Pick one or all^^^

Zeke
01 August 2020, 04:49
dpcd
As long as the bore is not obstructed, as in the German, US, and Mythbuster's rifles, nothing untoward will happen. The one in Saeed's picture does look very obtuse.
01 August 2020, 09:41
georgeld
Ahhh hell, we had a horse packing accident
that bent the barrel on a '17 Enfield
enough we were told by the 'smith it
was more than 40 feet off at 100 yards.

He straightened it and shot better than it
ever had before. Dad's former elk rifle
sold to my cousin before the wreck.

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01 August 2020, 11:52
cdsx
My issue (well, one anyway) with this publicity-stunt-masquerading-as-an-experiment is: Why was it necessary to destroy a perfectly good scope to show that the bullet (or parts thereof) exited the barrel? A flat target held firmly in the same location would have yielded far more information. Why is the younger generation so entertained by pointlessly destroying things?
01 August 2020, 11:55
cdsx
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I meant I didn't look it up. So I just googled Krummerlauf, you still get the same results. I do see that there was an STG44 version too. I had one once, not the crooked barrel one though.
First word I ever misspelled in my life and it wasn't even an English word. Won't happen again. My English Teacher Mother is spinning in her grave about now. No slack.



Don't feel too bad; the supposed "professional" writers and proof-readers that work for that newspaper didn't know the difference between "site" and "sight". Just the Daily Mail upholding their reputation for quality journalism. Perhaps English isn't their first language.
01 August 2020, 16:47
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by cdsx:
My issue (well, one anyway) with this publicity-stunt-masquerading-as-an-experiment is: Why was it necessary to destroy a perfectly good scope to show that the bullet (or parts thereof) exited the barrel? A flat target held firmly in the same location would have yielded far more information. Why is the younger generation so entertained by pointlessly destroying things?


because, youtube! while a platen target would have offered repeatable and measurable results, drama makes for youtube views, which leads to advertisement review and youtube income.

even science is dramatized to get more views


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
01 August 2020, 17:22
skl1
I've stumbled into the demolition ranch videos before. I hated seeing him destroy 8 or 9 pistols, but I was amazed at how tough they were and at how even ridiculous barrel obstructions were mostly handled safely by the firearms. Also interested in the results of this bent barrel experiment.
01 August 2020, 19:37
ted thorn
Thoughts

The link was chock full a fishing and pop ups is my thought


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01 August 2020, 19:42
cdsx
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by cdsx:
My issue (well, one anyway) with this publicity-stunt-masquerading-as-an-experiment is: Why was it necessary to destroy a perfectly good scope to show that the bullet (or parts thereof) exited the barrel? A flat target held firmly in the same location would have yielded far more information. Why is the younger generation so entertained by pointlessly destroying things?


because, youtube! while a platen target would have offered repeatable and measurable results, drama makes for youtube views, which leads to advertisement review and youtube income.

even science is dramatized to get more views



Exactly my point: Because the younger generation so entertained by pointlessly destroying things.

I'm well-acquainted the principle of drama emphasizing a scientific point. I once built a Heath Robinson contraption of dubious scientific value to graphically demonstrate to the limited minds occupying a courtroom that a suit, brought by a typical Sally the Serial Sue-er, was preposterous. The real scientific data was too dry and boring for the court to grasp, but a video of a contraption wearing a sneaker and repeatedly stepping on a stair for hours was enough to get the case thrown out. The real science was contained in the extensive engineering report placed into evidence, that likely no one in that courtroom read. In this case, the theatrics demonstrated the valid science therein. In the case of these videos, the theatrics demonstrate little, other than that somebody has a lot of spare cash to waste on trashing firearms, and that the public is easily amused. The future leaders of the nation.
01 August 2020, 20:38
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Well,,,we see people sitting side by side and converse via texting. Time that would be better spent learning to tie their own shoe laces.
01 August 2020, 21:42
Rolland
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Well,,,we see people sitting side by side and converse via texting. Time that would be better spent learning to tie their own shoe laces.

tu2


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02 August 2020, 00:28
cdsx
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Well,,,we see people sitting side by side and converse via texting. Time that would be better spent learning to tie their own shoe laces.



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02 August 2020, 11:34
Nordic2
"Ahhh hell, we had a horse packing accident
that bent the barrel on a '17 Enfield
enough we were told by the 'smith it
was more than 40 feet off at 100 yards.
He straightened it and shot better than it
ever had before. Dad's former elk rifle
sold to my cousin before the wreck."

A friend had a canoe accident and lost his cheap Winchester 70 rifle for about 3-5 months in a creek they found it rusty and with a really bent barrel like 70 degree, they took it to an other friend who has a machine shop and straightened the barrel and it works perfect again. The difficult thing were to have the police to reregister the rifle after they had accepted it was lost in a creek.
02 August 2020, 12:03
sambarman338
quote:
Originally posted by IOWADON:
One of my friends told me how his father was at a military range during WWII and his sargent told him to shoot a bolt action .30-06 with a bent barrel. He refused saying it was dangerous and his sargent made fun of him and shot it to prove it was not dangerous and that my friend's father was just a coward. The bolt came back out of the action and killed the sargent. Don't know if his father told him a true story or not but my friend is not a bullshitter.


Well, that experiment wasn't too bright, anyway.
02 August 2020, 12:09
sambarman338
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by sambarman338:
the most horrible news site I've ever seen, so chock full of BS advertising you could hardly click anywhere without summoning some crap you didn't want.


install "ghostery" in your browser


Thanks jeffeosso, I'll think about it. I don't begrudge newspapers etc posting ads in their articles even if I try to ignore them - they have to make money somehow.
04 September 2020, 04:41
jeffeosso
round 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5XzBfzfEvg


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com