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I'm wondering about a Rifle I saw today. it is a 1909 Peruvian Mauser that is no blued, not stainless steel, it almost seems to be chromed. It is beautiful shiny bright steel with a blued barrel. What kind of finish do you think is on this action. I thought in-the-white metal had to be blued.  That's right I'm a rookie regarding this stuff.  Also, is this a good project action? It is chambered in a 7x57 with a butt-ugly white wood stock of some kind. Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | ||
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Its in the White. Same goes for the 1909 Argentine and a few of the other South American contract Mausers. Pristine copies sure are beautiful actions. The 1909 Peruvian is a fine action. I believe it is identicle to the 1909 Argentine. Find out if it was made in Germany or South America. Many of the Mausers made in South America had suspect heat treatment. | |||
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Pretty good steel not to have rusted in all these years huh?   Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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The action is not stainless, the ctions were furnished "in the white." This action is highly desirable for a basis of a custom rifle. There are no flies on the 7x57 - if the barrel is still good, keep it and make sporter out of it. In the mean time, go buy it before I do! Jason "Chance favors the prepared mind." | |||
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09 Peruvian actions are fairly unique: intermediate length, large ring, small thread, long barrel shank, extra high charger, manufactured in Oberndorf, Germany. Master metalsmith Tom Burgess likes to grind the sides of the ring to small-ring diameter but retain the top thus ending up with an "oval" front ring. According to Tom, he came up with this idea because alot of Peruvians are pitted below the stock line and this was a way to clean them up and also have something unusual. See the recent thread on the Ottmar/Worthing/Kehr rifle. Original unaltered specimens with matching numbers in good shape are scarce, a superb action for a custom rifle.  NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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where did you see it? what did they want for it? | |||
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Here's one on GunBroker, lots of alterations, good donor rifle for a project though providing the pitting isn't too bad: 09PeruvianMauser NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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That's what it said on the side. Is this a full size (30.06) action?? Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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Where do I look to check if it was made in Germany or South America? Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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Riodot, it was made at the original Mauser facility in Oberndorf, Germany. It is intermediate length, originally set up for the 7x57, but can safely be opened up for the 30-06, like the one for sale on GunBroker. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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I am thinking of a 416 Taylor - does this action have the strength for that?? Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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It should, would make a dandy open-sight express-style rifle in that caliber. Will require some fancy ramp, rail and magazine work but not impossible. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Thanks so much for that info. I guess I'd better go get it then.  Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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Here is a snap shot of my ole Peruvian. Sorry for the glare I didn't have the time to set up properly for the photo & the metal is still a wee bit shiny. I'll take some good shots tommorrow to show its detail better. Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Somebody in the forum used this action for a an "improved" 8mm based upon the 376 Steyr case. Not sure who it was.  A beautiful project though. | |||
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Is that work very complicated or specialized, or would a good smith be able to do the work? Is there a good Mauser book or smithing book that would go over ramp, rail, & magazine work for the beginner to follow? Doug: I look forward to more photos of that rifle later. Is that a straight or bent bolt handle? Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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What does he do about the serial number on the front ring? From the photos of the Ottmar/Worthing/Kehr gun, it appears the serial number is obliterated. Have I missed something? If not, is that legal? | |||
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Taking off the serial number is fine, so long as you put back somewhere on the receiver where it is visable without disassembly. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Do you have to have an FFL to move the serial number? Something I read somewhere was that the BATF saw this as an act of manufacture, so you had to have a manufacturer's FFL, but I don't know if that is correct. | |||
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No, you don't need a mfg. lic. because you haven't assigned a new serial number to the reciever, just moved it. If you are working on somebody elses gun (for profit) you need an FFL anyway. But to move the serial number on your own gun.... No clue; but it would be worth a phone call first. Rusty's Action Works Montross VA. Action work for Cowboy Shooters & Manufacturer of Stylized Rigby rifle sights. http://i61.photobucket.com/alb.../th_isofrontleft.jpg | |||
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Let's allow the atf to decide about moving, destroying, or what requires an FFL, shall we? no real good reason to express opinions, while mentally sound, are contrary to law. a quick call to the locale's agent with a specific question usually keeps you clear jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I just got off the phone with the BATF feild office in Richmond VA. Inspector Dickey did not know the answer to this question so he contacted Washington and got right back to me. The original serial number may not be destroyed or altered in any way. If you restamp the serial number on the action somewhere else, that is fine, but the original number must reamain as is and unaltered. While I am disappointed with the answer.. so be it. I am going to post this on its own too. Rusty's Action Works Montross VA. Action work for Cowboy Shooters & Manufacturer of Stylized Rigby rifle sights. http://i61.photobucket.com/alb.../th_isofrontleft.jpg | |||
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