Hi, does the Remington R25 trigger group is the same as the various AR15 and clones? A friend has just bought one and want to replace it, since it's too heavy.

the r-25 is the DPMS 308 -- i THINK the panther (could be wrong) -- looks for info on the DPMS 308
jeffe

same trigger as the DPMS since they make it. ar15 trigger fits right in. sure wish dpms could figure out how to make a trigger cause theirs sure sucks

Tis the reason to purchase an ArmaLite AR-10.
2 atage trigger system out of the box.
The ArmaLite's M14/M1A magazine system has worked for 50 + yrs,but you haven't approached your other short coming...yet!!

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Originally posted by butchloc:
same trigger as the DPMS since they make it. ar15 trigger fits right in. sure wish dpms could figure out how to make a trigger cause theirs sure sucks

You sure the .308 based R25 uses the same trigger as the .223 based R15? I was under impression that the big boys had a different trigger group that the AR15 rifles.

I don't know if the two trigger groups are the same or not, but if it is the std. AR15 arrangement, you can Google for "adjustments, modifications, tuning, etc." for same and the steps to take are not that difficult and can end up w/ very nice serviceable, reliable trigger. If you carefully examine the function of the hammer and trigger as you pull back on the trigger, you will note that the hammer actually travels a small amount in reverse before being released to strike the firing pin. Place thumb in front of hammer when doing this for you can damage the mag wall of the receiver by having the hammer strike it.
The trigger's "nose" is angled and the
hammer is travelling up that slope until it is released. That area on the trigger nose can be burnished/polished and yes even the angle changed ever so slightly to lessen the effort to release the hammer. The top edge of the trigger nose is sharp, and if that sharp edge is relieved/"rounded" just a small amount it will greatly improve the trigger pull. In essence you are lessening the distance the hammer has to travel up the nose of the trigger and result is smoother less heavy travel of the trigger. Another step to improve the trigger pull is to bend the right leg of the hammer spring upward some 30degrees or so. I and others use a moly grease obtained from Compass Lake Engineering which will noticeably smooth out the trigger pull as well.
Now, whether you want to attempt all of this is another issue, but just a suggestion.
WARNING!!!!! whether you do this mod or not or install a different trigger would encourage you to not use a full magazine, 2-3 rnds. only for testing.
Unless you have a registered MG, it is illegal to go full auto and 20 rnds of 308 is a bit much for most to handle!!

martin

The hammer spring will be heavier in an AR-10 system compared to an AR-15 system.
AR-10 firing pins have a rebound spring to help prevent slam fires.

yup at least i used on in mine. the timney ar15 trigger group drops right in

The DPMS pattern lower receivers will take every standard AR-15 trigger tried(haven't tried the self contained Timney or McCormick though).

No extra strength hammer spring needed.

It isn't terribly hard to figure out why everyone is copying the DPMS design and not the Armalite.

$17 PMAGS certainly make the decision much easier.