I've never used this but I'm going to give it a try. I had gun built for and it was finished with Velvit and I like it. Looking at their site it appears all choices contain stain mixed in. That's also part of the reason I'm looking at it. I'm getting ready to finish a piece of English that has great, dark mineral lines but on a very straw like base color, the bad kind of straw, not the nice gold honey color. Feedback and if possible photo's on the different tints appreciated.

I don't have any pictures to show you, but i have used a couple of thier colors on several gunstocks. I have produced high gloss, satin and matte finishes with it. It is a fine product for gunstocks. You wont be disapointed so long as you pick a good color for the piece of wood you have.

i like the stuff .. billy introduced me to it.

They make us use the stuff at school in basics section and stocks, so I have a little experience with it. I would highly recommend thinning it.

The only real issue I have with it is there are better finishes to be had, so why bother wasting my time with an inferior product IMO.

I have used it a couple times and it works well.

PM me for a picture or two and details on how I used it.

Aaron, I'm a bit older than you but we'll both be long dead before there will ever be a winner of the best stock finish contest.

Well the I guess I wont clobber up this thread with facts then...

what's "the best stock finish" ?
the one YOU like .. and, frankly, velvit is a pretty decent finish, with far less trouble than some of the pantherpiss and hen's teeth concoctions that i've seen..

if one doesn't bother to learn how to use it, of course it will give poorer results.

sort of like all the "X martial art vs Y martial art" videos ... take a blackbelt in one, force the situation to favor that one, and a green belt in the other.. it always LOOKS like it proves a point.

it doesn't -- merely reinforces an opinion.

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Originally posted by Aaron Little:
Well the I guess I wont clobber up this thread with facts then...

Every, repeat EVERY stockmaker I know is still, repeat STILL seeking the perfect finish and technique! Yes, some work better than others and I for one would (respectfully) like to know the details of your thinking and experience 'cause I too am still seeking. I've had good but not super results with some products, really POOR results with others and am always open to suggestions about different materials and techniques.
TIA, Joe

In my limited experience I have found Daly's products out of Washington to be superb. I really like the Seafin Teak Oil, and the Benmatte Tung Oil; which were recommended to me by Chic Worthing. I also notice Duane Wiebe uses the teak oil.

It seems to me both of these finishes soak into the wood much farther than Velvet Oil. They dry harder and faster. It creates a more durable finish that is more weather resistant, it wont darken as it ages like linsead oil products; I can obtain a better, more consistant finish in a shorter period of time.

I havent found a finish I like more.

My last response was a little tongue in cheek...use what you like. I dont like Velvet oil for these reasons listed above.

Aaron, do you use a dryer with the teak and tung oils? I know from experience that true tung oil needs a drying agent and the teak oil I bought at HD said it needed one also. Just curious. I used the HD teak oil on one stock (one coat so far) and it dried OK but I used some Japan Drier with it. Also poured some (1/8") teak oil into an open dish, it's been sitting now for 2 months and isn't dry yet.

Many prepared tung products already have a drier mixed in with the tung, it's sometimes hard to tell.

I like the red tint that the teak oil imparts and will experiment with different amounts of drier.
Regards, Joe

Both the Teak and Tung oils from Daly's are modified with dryers from the factory. So no need to add anything.

Most teak and tung oils you get at the hardware store dont actually contain what is on the label; usually they are or contain a modified linsead oil.

I have been putting alkanet root in the teak oil for a while for a little extra red.

Some years ago, I did a seminar on stock finishes during an ACGG show. This was not a "how to" but a heads up[ on the dangers of various finishes out there.


I was assisted in my reseach by an MD who was a "gun nut"

Be very careful of anything that contains the "enes" as in toluene, xylene, etc. Adding driers such as Japan or Cobalt also calls for special care...protective gloves and wash afterwards.

Daly's products are by and large pretty darn safe and do the job admirably

Aaron, if my memory serves me right Daly's teak oil is tung oil not teak oil. I think it gets it's name as it was formulated for teak wood on boats. I could be all wet............. I've been using their teak oil and like it well enough but am prone to experiment with others.

Teak oil is oil that is designed to go on teak wood. Tung and linseed are oils from the respective trees.

Velvit is soy based, that was a surprise.

Soy based gun stock oil???? The next thing you know they'll have dear rifles for vegetarians