Swamp
Manager of HuntAmerica.com, LLC
Loc: Naples, Maine USA


Re: Muzzleloading Videos [re: RandyWakeman] 08/20/03 06:45 PM Edit Reply



Randy, Thanks to you and to those who have purchased videos...... supporting this site financially is vital to keep these forums running... no financial support means no HA talk forums.. December is renewal time for our server.. I guess we will see how it goes...

Looks like the pickings will be slim come Christmas time. I think HA might be going tits up!

Bigstick agree 100%

Joe,

While I'm seldom warm and fuzzy,I do in fact believe that fair IS fair...................

Swamp is an advocate of the premise that any activity on his site is good.

Within the last year he has trolled his own site for reaction, pissed off a bunch of quality posters, and generally made a nuisance of himself.

He resurrected the contentious thread about Jack Belk himself.

He resurrected the contentious thread about David Miller himself.

He initiated a bashing thread about MRC in a snit over their lack of advertising.

In all of these threads he was intentionally combative with knowledgable posters in a most obnoxious and misinformed manner. His recent banning of the group of people from his site, under the pretense of "cleaning up", is a sham. Swamp is the biggest violator of the premise, and he removes his own offending posts.......and any of the contributing dialog.

I hadn't posted on HA for a month........I left after the mindless bashing he continued on MRC. My post last night asked him if he told Jack Belk about the crap he contributed in the "Where's Jack" thread, and that he had initiated the thread himself. Bingo......banned.

The strength of Internet forums is the diversity of knowledge and experience of individuals that contribute. It's questionable policy to bait these people with stupid posts until they leave. Or worse, wait until they react......and then ban them and remove the threads.

I read a lot more than I post, but the entertainment value of HA is dwindling fast.

GV

[ 10-14-2003, 21:58: Message edited by: GrandView ]

As one of the original charter members of Swamp's "Banned-Boys Club", I think it's hysterical that he's still up to his stupid games.

He goes into a tailspin where he just can't hit the Banned button fast, or often, enough. Then he'll have a change of heart and want to be everybody's friend again. That usually happens right before the annual Server Fund Charity Drive. And people STILL continue to give that guy money...

Swamp banned me years ago, in one of his first ethnic cleansing rounds, and I've never looked back. I never bothered to re-register or even check back to watch the charades. I did get a kick out of him emailing later though, saying to give him a call & we could patch things up, once he took his "Let's All Be Friends pills". He even invited me for pizza next time I'm in Maine.

I'm sure that some of his loyal flunkies have emailed this thread to him, so just click on my email link Swamp & you'll remember who I am...

It must be frustrating as all get-out to be reading this and have your Delete/Banned button be inactive here, huh?

Cold Bore,

I wondered what happened to you. I thought you left HA on your own, didn't realize you were forced out by the administrative pinhead running the show.

Joe

The funny part of this is I was nuts enough to give Swamp $50.00 on the first dedicated server fund. Yes I know, silly me!! I didn't donate last year because of the way things were heading. But, here a few weeks ago he made some statements that I asked him to provide cold, hard facts for. I further offered to make another twenty to thirty dollar donation to the sever fund if he came up with them. Guess what, nothing ever materialized. What should this tell me:
1. That he just forgot where he read these facts.
2. That the money I offered to his sight wasn't worth his trouble to tell where he read them.
3. He had no basis for what he was claiming.
4. It was just more rumors he likes to keep going to provide hits on his site.
Anyone can draw their own conclusion, I have drawn mine.

As others have said, he just has made so many rash statements lately that people besides me have questioned. When asked for replies or what his true motives are he has simply danced around the questions by starting new threads. This is great, especially when you can delete selected posts in a thread to make it look good to yourself. This is what I donated to, yes you're right, "Silly me".

Nearly every, if not every person he has banned in the last couple of days was because they questioned why he banned Howard. It bothers me not that he banned several people I choose to think of as friends and myself but it does bother me he doesn't have the guts to tell everyone on his site why he did this, AND leave the posts for All to see that caused his actions.

Least anyone think it is "Sour grapes" to post this here, I would gladly post it on his site if such were possible. Swamp has decided that he wants to hear no more questions from me that will make him show his true color. Being the "Big Kahuna" that is his privilege and I accept it. He just needs to accept the consequences for his actions. Time will tell what they are.

Larry,

If you desire, I will post it for you before I'm banned. Just let me know. You've always been one of the most reasonable voices, which is why I don't understand swamp's problem (other than AGAIN being proven wrong). Let me know, I'll be happy to do it before I'm banned.

Joe

Swamp is the only one stupid enough to believe that what Howard did violates any laws. The WA State AG's office won't stick up for it's own citizens from my experience, they surely would not do anything for a dip stick in Maine. What they did tell him was to grow up.

I posted last night on that thread after a long hiatus (or is that on of those muscle tears you get in your groin area)and was immediately banned. My reason was "trash". Always wanted to be classified as trash by a liberal from Maine.

I again do not think that attacking the advertisers is a worthwhile activity. I suspect that they will withdraw on their own but if they do not, that is their worry. I always found it humorous that when Swamp went after a high speed server, he examined the difference between the two servers and then asked for and got funding for the whole ball of wax and not just the difference.

If you desire, I will post it for you before I'm banned. Just let me know. I'll be happy to do it before I'm banned.

Joe

I appreciate the offer, but it really isn't necessary. Swamp has dug a deep enough hole already for himself that he has his work cut out for him in trying to explain any logic for his actions other than "He doesn't have to". I know several people personally from the "New England" area and feel that they have to be quite embarrassed by his actions if they know about them.

If you want to ask something, I am curious who all he did decide to ban last night, and what the reasons were. Mine was because of "Dumb remarks" I didn't know about Chic. It would be interesting to see a complete list.

Thanks again for support, things like that are far more important to me than a little person playing "King of the mountain". Let him have his fun. Brings back memories of the old "Coffee shop". We all know where it is now.

Larry

How many of you guys posted at the "Coffee Shop"? I used to post there too but under a different name. Heck, I can't even remember what name I posted as

I used used to post in the Coffee Shop as well.

I have raised this breed (English Setter) in the past and love them dearly. A lot easier to just ignore the kind of crap that is gong on at HA when this little wonder is at my heels. He is a new shadow that helps me to put this in perspective. A new additon to the family as of two days ago. Now I need to get my shotgun stock finished so I can do some shooting over him this spring.

Would like you all to meet Duff.

I must say that's quite a positive addiction to your family. Plus he's much better looking than you. Although you could always shave his head bald and make it real shiney. Create him in your image if you will.

Didn't all this banning stuff start because of something about Pamela Anderson?

Customstox,

Now, that is one very pretty little puppy!

Rusty
We band of brothers!

Chic, Howard, 8mag, etc... This whole thing goes back to one point. Why would swamp decide to start a thread to screw someone who posted tons of howto information for everything over the past few years? There is absolutely no reason for him to do this other then he wants to be in the running for the pro-abortion poster moron. I dont usually say much, i have seen some other complaints about crap like this there before, but this one takes it hands down. Guess we will just have to annoy Saeed here now

I've been posting at HA for some time, and I've lurked in here as well. I'm not a real heavy duty poster at either one but this place has some quirks of it's own. Try starting a thread here about our war in Iraq or policy in the mid-east, see how far that gets ya, especially if you are somewhat of a hawk.

This is just the internet, nothing to get your shorts in a knot. What thread on HA started all the trouble?

Doug

I wondered what happened to all of the old timers from hunt America.

I have not been hanging arround a WHole lot latly, A little boring over there.

Hey Guys! I hadn't seen Chic or Howard in a long time, but I've basically been hanging on motorcycle boards. Good to know where folks ran off to.

That pup is beautiful btw Chic!

HA has been a "Vast Swampland" for a long time...

[ 10-15-2003, 08:44: Message edited by: Brad ]

I just was able to post on HA so I am not banned. I am somewhat disapointed as the banned group is such esteemed company.

I did tell Swamp off in my own way yesterday and it's deleted.

The thing to do is to call up a supplier that you know and tell them what's going on and suggest that they drop HA so as not to be associated with them.

DNR is a big $ source for me. I will call them tommorrow.

well well, I've been busy since the hurricane and haven't been posting at HA much for the past month so all this is news to me.

You know what I find slightly humourous, is a few years back, Mike375 and I got banned for speaking our mind and not letting Swamp or Belk have no opposition to their tirade about some supposed safety issues. Some of you who are banned now, where the very same ones who never lifted a finger, some of you in fact where the very ones crying for us to be banned, because we upheld the rules of gun safety above someones feelings.

Now you are upset because Swamp turned the tables on you, over the same type of personal issue. Turn about is fair play, sorta sucks don't it...

I don't have a problem with Marshall, he owns the place, he's pretty much done everything he told me he would. If he doesn't like someone that is his business. Take it up with him, personally, don't trash him all over the place; the term juvenile has been thrown around in regards to all this, I think you all need to look at your actions.

Doug S,

Welcome to the forum.

Our Political Forum was started for the amusement of our memebrs - especialy those who have gotten banned from other sites, and have asked me to start one here.

On that forum, as well as the rest of our site, one is free to express his point of view, without any fear of being censored or banned.

Post self-deleted....dumb remark.

[ 10-15-2003, 11:26: Message edited by: steve y ]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

A relevant thread on this subject

Censorship at AR!?

St Gunner,

Steve, I've respected what you wrote in the past. Not always agreed, but respected. Your last comment, however, is a joke. So some have thought what went on yesterday (obviously yourself included) to be juvenile. Okay, that is their perogative. How juvenile is it to now come over and "rub it in"? Ha ha, turnabout is fair play, now you know what it's like blah blah blah. Think about what you just wrote man, its no more juvenile than calling swamp out.

Joe

Saeed,

Thanks for the welcome; you have a nice place here. My post was meant to say that everyone has a �button� that can be pushed and if one tries hard enough they will succeed in pissing someone off. Another words, I wasn�t trying to get you mad.

NC,

I�m glad this stuff stays out of the other place.

Doug

Hi Guys
Just thought I'd say hello and how nice the site looks.

I was told about this thread, here on AR from a friend. I am an advertiser on HA and I must admit that I am totally in the dark as to this matter - until now.

If somebody would direct me - inform me - as to the what, where, why and how this all got started on HA I surely would appreciate it.

Even as an advertiser I am limited to what I can and can't post but that is an agreement between me and HA. I am not permitted to post anything about having my own forum and that is sort of sad in that we have give-aways for forum members. But, as I agreed, I can't mention anything about it on HA. I will say I was banned on another site as an advertiser for making mention of having a forum of my own.

I am asking for input from those that were banned from HA. Please e-mail me personally at sales@groovebullets.com

I don't want to take up Saeeds band width with this matter.

I can promise this. If I find HA guilty of censorship beyond the posted rules on HA, I will remove my advertising dollar.

Again, please e-mail me directly so I may address this issue.

Thank you

Don

Note to self: Order some Groove Bullets.

Thanks for that post Big Stick. You are absolutely correct in your prescription for not boycotting but rather informing of how their ad dollars are being spent. I've been away for a day or two and while thinking about it, it didn't feel quite right. Not all wrong either though. Your suggestion is a good happy medium.

I was wondering how things would progress and I'm shocked to see some threads that are up on HA and some of the posters being allowed to speak freely. I don't feel so bad now for being banned as "trash" while other got at least a two word banning reason Looks like another has received the same.

GrandView listed the reasons exactly that finaly got me to the point of having enough of Swamp.

"He resurrected the contentious thread about Jack Belk himself.

He resurrected the contentious thread about David Miller himself.

He initiated a bashing thread about MRC in a snit over their lack of advertising."

The whole thing had me pissed and even pissed at a few other members whom perhaps I shouldn't have been. Swamp has always been comic relief in the past and I just looked past him and went on to what I enjoyed

I did also make a joke about Pam Anderson...... UNDERClOCKED, Very Funny, better not be a virus in that

I don't recall how long it's been since I've been over at HA, at least a year, maybe two. The funny thing is, it sounds exactly like Greybeards! Trash companies that won't advertise on your sight, delete/edit anything you don't like, and whine for $'s to keep the website up.

I would like to say thanks again to Saeed for providing AR at great expense to himself for all of us to enjoy.

Just thought I'd say Hi, you bunch of horrid outcasts.

Nice to see that shooters, and hunters, have more to them than petty bickering.

Am I banned yet Swamp?

the funny part about all of this (to me, at least), is that i wouldn't have known about the special charter prices on MRC actions if it weren't for all the controversy on HA. until then, i had considered them "too expensive for me," but when i found out about the 350$ special, i ordered one right away.

so, in a way, i must remember to thank swamp and HA for my new action!