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Locking lever on a 3 pos safety?
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Is this a new offering from NECG? View it HERE.

It is under "gun making components" and then "safeties".

Seems like a good idea in theory but in the field what do you think?


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Just what everyone needs, another friggin “thing-a-ma-bob†to have to screw around with on a safety! Smiler

When will designers and engineers (sorry Chic!) take a break and stop trying to reinvent the wheel and trying to fix things that aren’t broken?
 
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It's a great idea that could only be improved by having a J-lock on the lock that locks the safety.

If one safety is good and two is better, wouldn't three be best?


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While I will admit that the need for the middle position of a three position safety is debatable, I have to say that this do-hickey is without any redeeming value whatsoever.



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the company that makes the NECG parts in Europe has had redundant safeties for several years.

What do I think about them?

Well, if you are the type to drive your car while wearing a belt and suspenders, using seat belt plus front and side air bags, while wearing a football helmet, hockey mask, space suit, and condom, then you will probably see merit in this safety.

For people like me who have ridden bulls, swam with sharks, caught a bobcat with my bare hands, stayed with nomads in outer Mongolia, done business with the Russian mafia, and dated A LOT of red headed women, then it is a little hard to justify this solution to a problem I never knew existed.
 
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For people like me who have ridden bulls, swam with sharks, caught a bobcat with my bare hands, stayed with nomads in outer Mongolia, done business with the Russian mafia, and dated A LOT of red headed women, then it is a little hard to justify this solution to a problem I never knew existed.


You are my hero! I would love to do five of those six things myself! Although I have done many interesting things in my own life, I have not done any of those in particular.

My reaction to that safety the first time I saw it was also WTF? I am glad they haven't D/C'd their original model. I just wish someone would figure out how to make a 3 pos. for under $100.
 
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I have one on a bld action I bought a while back. Not practical for a DGR, but its no big deal to operate. I'm not saying I like it, but you just put you thumb on it and push forward and it comes off safety.

I'd call it a safety for a safety.


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I have one of those safeties and it sure is heck not going to get pushed off accidentally!

But it is a bit slow to get into action for a jump shot.
 
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What makes the NECG safeties worth $100 more than the Dakota's? I am asking because I don't know.


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Originally posted by Marc_Stokeld:
the company that makes the NECG parts in Europe has had redundant safeties for several years.

What do I think about them?

Well, if you are the type to drive your car while wearing a belt and suspenders, using seat belt plus front and side air bags, while wearing a football helmet, hockey mask, space suit, and condom, then you will probably see merit in this safety.

For people like me who have ridden bulls, swam with sharks, caught a bobcat with my bare hands, stayed with nomads in outer Mongolia, done business with the Russian mafia, and dated A LOT of red headed women, then it is a little hard to justify this solution to a problem I never knew existed.


What are you bucking for with those tall tales, a job as a moderator on AR?
 
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Looks like a nice little spot for water to get into and then freeze while your hunting.
 
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Like billy said (and I've shot this rifle) it's not bad for a non DGR... i'd do one on a 338-06 or something... but not on a boomer, after ahving worked it.

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no tall tales here. Witnesses to all of them. I have done soem real crazy stuff, but did not post it, as some folks would wonder if I were making it up.

It was funny the night I caught the bobcat because my friend Monty shook his head and told his sister, "I can't wait until I have grandchildren so I can tell them about the night Marc Stokeld caught a bobcat with his bare hands!"
 
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Seems like a waste considering that Jim Kobe's safety conversions are only $98 even if they are only two position, they work great and don't require any modification to the rear of your 98 bolt.


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For people like me who have ridden bulls, swam with sharks, caught a bobcat with my bare hands, stayed with nomads in outer Mongolia, done business with the Russian mafia, and dated A LOT of red headed women, then it is a little hard to justify this solution to a problem I never knew existed.


I didn't see where you jumped a skyscraper with a single bound Big Grin
With a resume such as this, I would think you would have been inducted into the "band of bubba's" rotflmo
 
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I used to ride a “wild-bucking-bronco†every day, until one of the damned rockers broke off! Smiler

Then there was the time I was surrounded by four hundred cannibals in Borneo...nah, that one is too long to get into on here.

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For people like me who have ridden bulls, swam with sharks, caught a bobcat with my bare hands, stayed with nomads in outer Mongolia, done business with the Russian mafia, and dated A LOT of red headed women, then it is a little hard to justify this solution to a problem I never knew existed.


Marc, I read your resume with great interest till I got to the part about a "LOT of redheaded women" While all the others are noteworthy accomplishments the act of dating more than one redhead is beyond my comprehension and you should change your username to Marc "DaMan" Stokeld.


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You tell 'em Marc!

Some people think that if they haven't done it or seen it done, then dammit it can't be done.

But that's just because they've succumbed to the tyranny of their narrow minds and timid souls.

I once caught a squirrel bare-handed. I swear to God I thought I had picked up a stick of dynamite! Eeker Big Grin Cool

I lost some skin on that stunt!


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Seems like a waste considering that Jim Kobe's safety conversions are only $98 even if they are only two position, they work great and don't require any modification to the rear of your 98 bolt.


Jerry Dunn does them for half of that.


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What's the average smith charging these days for installing 3positon safeties on the Mausers?

Heck for that matter, what's the going rate for having that done for Remingtons?

It's not a difficult part to machine, but it seems like it's the instillation that gets the customer turned off on the procedure.


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What's the average smith charging these days for installing 3positon safeties on the Mausers?

Heck for that matter, what's the going rate for having that done for Remingtons?

It's not a difficult part to machine, but it seems like it's the instillation that gets the customer turned off on the procedure.


I have been quoted anywhere from $50 - $85 for installation of a Dakota 3 position. Probably worth it if its done right, meaning no slop and all three positions work correctly.
 
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If I remember correctly, Gentry's only charge $30 or so for the install of their safety if you buy it from them, which is the only way I would do it.
 
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What's the average smith charging these days for installing 3positon safeties on the Mausers?

It's not a difficult part to machine, but it seems like it's the instillation that gets the customer turned off on the procedure.


I was quoted today $35 for the installation of a Dakota.

I would sure like you to make up some of your own Matt. I'll bet you can beat the price of the Dakota's and others.


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That safety safety looks handy for hiking through thick stuff. I have knocked my safety off a couple of times in the Washington rain forests. I would only want it to work in the third position though.
 
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