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More short action craze here; guy asked me if I could build a 416 Rem on a short action Model 70. I told him he was crazy, but then realized he had more $ than brains, so decided to soak him. Here is the layout; this is a Super Short Model 70, with a factory 416 barrel installed; fine large thread. Fits perfectly. In the loading port you can see a 375 case; I will have to mill out a 1/4 inch slot to allow brass to eject. Of course, loaded rounds will not eject, so if you load it, you fire it. Or just press the bolt release. He wanted 5 down, but I told him 3 was it; I will have to move the box forward quite a bit, and I can get .4 inch more of mag room by milling out the center screw hole area; good thing the barrel has a huge recoil lug on it. Short action mania. Never understood it but I will make money off it.  | ||
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Well, I predict it will be the gift that keeps giving. Good luck at getting it to feed right and extract right. It’s probably going to be a recurrent problem for you until the guy decides he’s chasing it with good money after bad. I can’t say that the magnum action length is a problem. I have a Dakota .416 Rigby that is pretty consistently sub MOA at 100 yards (5 shot groups) using full power 400 grain TSX loads. I’ve got short action rifles that can’t shoot quite as well. Go figure. | |||
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So nice to hear that you soaked somebody. Old Corps Semper Fi FJB | |||
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Is there much meat left to support the lower locking lug? Pre 64's had a bit removed and Mark X mausers (can't remember the company or gun name) in 375 had even more removed. PA Bear Hunter, NRA Benefactor | |||
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It sounds like your customer maybe planning on hunting dangerous game if wanting 5 down, if so he'd better pray every time he pulls the trigger he doesn't have a misfire  | |||
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I thought you just make a 416 short mag wild cat | |||
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Lower locking lug recesses are overbuilt on Model 70s. Plenty left. Pre 64s are totally different. Why won't it it extract? Of course it will extract. It will also eject, which is a bit more important. Misfire? When is the last time anyone actually had a misfire? Unless they don't know how to reload. My client (customer is so gauche a term) will never hunt anything more dangerous than a cow. Maybe I should mill out another 1/4 inch from the ring. Maybe not. | |||
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I didn't mention anything about extract, you yourself said and I quote "Of course, loaded rounds will not eject, so if you load it, you fire it." My point being you load a round, have a misfire, then your unfired round will not eject. Not what anyone would want in any rifle shooting any game let alone dangerous game more so when the customer wants the 'backup' of 5 down. Don't you believe it, misfires do happen on occasion. IIRC not so long ago on this forum a warning and discussion re misfires from some Hornady (I think it was) factory DG ammo. BTW cows can injure and kill too. | |||
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More money than brains client, a good 1st world problem to have. The 416 express (350RM necked up to 416) or a 416 WSM would be alot easier project and able to match 450/400 ballistics. Not to mention easier to get to feed correctly. Look forward to seeing how your project turns out. | |||
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What if you drilled and tapped that honkin' bbl recoil lug for a screw and bed it for additional strength and rigidity? | |||
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Good idea. Relax E27; I don't read posts before I answer; saves time that way. | |||
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Did the customer explain why he wanted to do this, dpcd? Hopefully he doesn't frequent AR. | |||
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Why? There is no lack of misguided idiocy when it comes to guns and money. And I do get it; don't need a reason. My job is to develop and implement plans; just like when you plan a combat operation for a Combined Arms Battalion task force. Tank Heavy of course. I can to that too. | |||
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