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Adapt mag BM for '06
15 March 2020, 01:09
lee440Adapt mag BM for '06
I have a nice one piece magnum drop bottom metal for a M-98, I got it in a trade long ago and cannot remember the maker. Since it is for the fatter standard magnum cartridge, what modifications would be necessary to use it for a standard '06 cartridge? Would the wider box cause feeding issues with standard Mauser rails? Unfortunately, I don't have it available right now to play with, but was wondering if anyone has done this.
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15 March 2020, 01:13
jeffeossoyep . it's easy to fix .. to do it properly, you bend the rear of the bottommetal tabg a bit, redrill and countersink the rear hole ..
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15 March 2020, 01:38
lee440Jeffe, you lost me there. The bottom metal bolts up perfectly to the action. What I believe could cause feeding problems is the fact that the box is slightly wider for the fatter case. It seems to me that this will affect feeding when the follower pushes the cartridge up and hits the unmodified opening in the bottom of the action. One possible alternative is to bevel the action so the cartridge will slide up under the feedrails, but to me, I am wondering if it might be better to make a sheetmetal liner that will reduce the internal width of the mag to '06 dimensions which would allow standard feeding geometry, if that makes sense? I have a friend that can easily make me the sheetmetal.
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15 March 2020, 02:08
Jim KobeThat step in the action/bottom metal juncture will cause the upcoming round to not feed; it will hang up there. You would be better off trying to swap with someone who has an '06 box.
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15 March 2020, 03:53
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)Truthfully, the whole idea is not logical. But..if you really...really just gotta do it, you could install "guides" ( proper size wire may work)...the idea is to take up the slack to make the inside of the box close in width to an 06 box.
You don't HAVE to line the entire inside of the box...why do I know? Sometimes your just do the illogical because of existing circumstances
15 March 2020, 04:41
farbedoI have seen Duane's suggestion in action, but with sheet metal shims soldered to the inside of each sidewall to take up the space. At least, how I interpret Duane's suggestion to work.
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15 March 2020, 09:04
lee440Jim, that takes all the adventure out of it! Duane, I was thinking somewhat on the same lines as you from looking at 14/17 Enfield military mags that have pressed in guides in the sides. Correct gauge wire soldered in is doable as possibly is making and soldering in the correct thickness of sheetmetal to the inside of the box, front to back on both sides. One of the reasons for all of this trouble is that I had Tommy Kaye engrave it all up just before he passed away and I want to honor him with a nice build for it and right now I need another short magnum about as much as a dose of Covid19! I figured that with all the experience here, that someone, sometime had done this. Thanks for the replies and any future advice!
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15 March 2020, 19:06
jeffeossoDUDE -- i messed up ..
I thought you were asking for a mauser bottom metal on a springfield 03 not refitting mag to 30-06 ...
nevermind me, i am an idiot
15 March 2020, 22:04
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by farbedo:
I have seen Duane's suggestion in action, but with sheet metal shims soldered to the inside of each sidewall to take up the space. At least, how I interpret Duane's suggestion to work.
Jeremy
Wire is just a little easier because of the wide variety of gage available...Sheet metal certainly will work
16 March 2020, 16:23
jeffeossofor the strips or wire approach
loctite blackmax would work great for prototyping - it's tough enough to actually stay, but not anything perm of the exercise doesn't work.. but positioning and placement would be quick fast and not HOT
it won't stand up to hot blue, just saying, though I believe there is a loctite product that will
17 March 2020, 17:41
Toomany ToolsIt’s just not worth doing, period. Sell it and get the right part.
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