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I inherited an old Winchester model 70 .30-06. I was told it shot well and was exceptionally accurate. I scoped it and low and behold it is. Shoots almost anything to MOA or less. But…someone bent the trigger into a tight curve. See pic below.


Here is a similar rifle unaltered.


How would you guys straighten it?


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Remove it from the stock, take a picture, and ask the question again.
 
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Different profiles on both triggers, sure they are both the same? Follow DCPD's advice.
 
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Will do.
But, all you have to do is put your finger in the top pic to know it has been altered. And, even if it came that way (which it didn’t as I have about 25 similar M 70s)…it has to be changed.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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One thing is apparrent; it assures you place your finger on the same spot every time. That could aid accuracy, but might interfere with a gloved finger.
 
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No. I would not straighten it. You inherited someone’s reminder to use the fingertip to press the trigger straight back.
If the inheritance part of it isn’t important to you then change as you desire.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I just wanted to make sure it wasn't cut and welded back.
Now, heat it and bend it back. Do not heat the sear engagement area. Keep it wrapped in wet asbestos. I know....
Leave it as a tribute to some misguided hack? No.
 
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I would use a piece of bar of a larger radius than the curve of the trigger. Clamp the top part of the trigger in a parallel clamp as a heat sink, then heat the finger piece and form it to the bar. Regards, Bill.
 
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It is such a tight radius…I can barely get my into it…really bothersome.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Lane..I have plenty of take off's if you want one. But as Bill suggested..not rocket science and you'll not hurt any heat treat clear out at the end of the lever.

Thing is, a replacement trigger may or may not have a satisfactory pull ...and safety may need attention
 
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Or for $17.99 just buy a good one from Pre64.
 
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Thank you kindly for all of the help guys. I will straighten as advised and post pics. I really appreciate it.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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when you get it hot and bent as you like, let it cool a bit -- then "quench" in oil.. but not red
or near red hot -- it won't likely harden, but will help


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It appears to me the trigger guard may have been altered also.


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Trigger guard is unchanged. Probably my bad photography.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Many old Mauser big bores have triggers set back and the feel great and keep the recoil off the flipper finger with a set back grip, Id leave it in its present position and just open it to match the curve of the trigger guard..perfect on a hunting rifle..


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That is what I plan to do Ray.

It is just curved so tight…I can’t even get my finger into the radius.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Put it back like it was from the factory; But why screw around with it; let someone who bends triggers for a living do it.
For the $17.95 I would just buy a new one. They don't need alteration as designed.
 
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Tom,
1) Gunsmith’s aren’t common any longer.
2) The standard answer I get from gunsmiths today is: “I am too busy!” or “I don’t want to.”
3) I can always buy another one.
4) Before I was a veterinarian…I was as a welding fabricator…I am pretty handy with a torch and metal.
5) I grew up poor on a farm/ranch where if it got fixed…we fixed it.
6) my reloading/gun room is a climate controlled room in the corner of my ranch’s welding shop…well equipped.

I am willing to bet I can heat it up with a small oxy/acetylene torch and return it to original dimensions and drop it into a can of canola oil about as good as anyone. Time will tell. I will post pics.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I am impressed. I wasn't thinking about you being a vet with actual mechanical background and skills.
I use your list of excuses all the time!
Carry on.
 
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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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That looks real good. Another happy patient! Regards, Bill.
 
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Nice work


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Nice work. Looks factory.
 
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Well done!
NOW that looks great.

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Nice


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