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I have always wanted a takedown rifle...don't ask why...cause I want one.


So what about taking a BLR takedown in 30-06 and having it rebored to 9,3x62.

I figure that would be cheaper than a re-barrel...

i would have one gun that could just about do everything


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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If you can get someone to rebore it, go for it. Doesn't sound like it'll be that tough a job.


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Posts: 1449 | Location: Dallas, Texas | Registered: 24 February 2004Reply With Quote
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IIRC, there was a super remodel for sale here last year. The gentleman had restocked (gorgeous wood) one and rechambered to 9,3x62. It would be a hammer for anything on the continent.

I say go for it!

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Doesn't sound dumb to me at all.
In fact, it might be the absolute cheapest way to get into a 9.3X62 takedown.

Another option would be to start with the (new) Winchester 1895 T/D in 30/06. CDNN has them for a pretty low price. I don't know about the scope options on this rifle though.


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Don't know about the Browning BLR, but it can definitely be done (and has been done) with the Winchester 95.


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best of luck ... and you may have to use a new barrel, but it could be done.


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Two questions:

1. Will a 9.3x62 clean up a .30/06 barrel (assuming that the latter is the most likely of the BLR's to feed due to action length) and
2. Is the .30/06 barrel think enough to withstand the re-boring?

If so, the conversion might be very, very simple.

Any thoughts from folks who are much brighter than I am?


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Several years ago I had Cliff LaBounty rebore a 30.06 BLR-81 to 35 Whelen, plenty of meat on the barrel for that.
 
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.366 vs .308 ... even less .020, it will clean up the bore..
9,3x62 is the same OAL as 30-06


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Hmm...perhaps I should make this a 376 steyr...since I already have one and I hate extra components...


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike you have a PM - John
 
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Originally posted by Recoil Rob:
Several years ago I had Cliff LaBounty rebore a 30.06 BLR-81 to 35 Whelen, plenty of meat on the barrel for that.


About twelve years ago a buddy of mine sent Cliff LaBounty A Ruger M77 MkII mag in 375 HnH and it came back a 505 Gibbs. Muzzle of barrel looked like a piece of water pipe with such a large bore but it worked just fine


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I have a few of Cliff's rebore's (338-06, 35 Whelen and 9.3x62) and have considered just your project. His rule of thumb, given a standard taper as opposed to, perhaps, a Win M70 Featherweight taper was .10" a side over groove diameter at the muzzle. My pre-war J.P. Sauer 35 Whelen rebore of of his that is fairly light "along the way" goes .550" at the muzzle. Each rifle is damn accurate. I say go for it...
 
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One issue (to me anyhow) with the take down BLR is once it is taken down the lever that has to be pushed back up to reassemble will hang down below the receiver. This lever has to be protected so it doesnt get bent while the rifle is broken down.
Still, I like your idea!


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Someone (Brockman's?) used to offer a "breakdown" option for the BLR 81's. In essence the slot headed thru-bolt was replaced with an Allen head bolt and a hole was punched through the butt pad to allow a T handle Allen wrench in. The butt stock was removed and it could be packed this way. If you wanted it was a simple matter to remove the mainspring tube to further shorten it. Not as compact as removing the barrel but short enough to fit in a breakdown shotgun case.
 
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That was Fred Zeglin who offered the taked down stock bolt.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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