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There are a lot of barrel makers out there and feel free to post those that I don't mention which is probably an oversight but I'd like the choices to be somewhat streamlined if possible.

Question:
If waiting time was not an issue, and the prices were all the same, which many are all in the ballpark, what custom barrel would you want for a new hunting rifle project, and/or competition rifle?

Choices:
Kostyshyn
Rock
Obermeyer
Hart
Shilen
Lilja
Broughton
Krieger
Pac-Nor
Douglas
Lothar Walther
Spencer
Schneider
ER Shaw
Bartlein

 


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Kostyshyn is no longer in business. I use mostly Bartlien barrels now as they are as good as it gets IMO. I won't hesitate to use Krieger or Shilen either.
 
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Kostyshyn is no longer in business. I use mostly Bartlien barrels now as they are as good as it gets IMO. I won't hesitate to use Krieger or Shilen either.


I didn't know that. When did he go oob? I had planned on ordering something from him.


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RKS,Chanlynn,Pedersen, are fine also.
Which ever good quality barrel one chooses, Id be more concerned about how well it is chambered and fitted.
If you get a barrel from LotharWalther and ask them to profile it for you, they map the bore,and if after the profiling it falls out of their stringent tolerance standards, they scrap it.
Air guaging of barrels is old technology.
Now we are seeing some dedicated rifle action makers and barrel makers, that work in single figure micron units of measurement.
 
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I've had good luck with McGowan.


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I've liked Benchmark lately. I know they aren't on the list. Just my opinion


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I own two Lothar-Walther .423 barrels and they are well made by folks who care about their customers. If you have any doubt, call Woody over in GA. and talk to him about the way they make rifle barrels. A quality product at a resonable price. As far as I am concerned, the rest of my barrels will be L-W. Just my opine!


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IN my experience Rock, Krieger, Brouhgton and and Schneider are all good tubes.
 
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I have some of those but not a Rock. He'll probably be the one I try next.


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Kostyshyn is no longer in business. I use mostly Bartlien barrels now as they are as good as it gets IMO. I won't hesitate to use Krieger or Shilen either.


I didn't know that. When did he go oob? I had planned on ordering something from him.


He was taking deposits up until a couple years ago, but not delivering barrels...
 
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Krieger!! Well known in the industry as an excellent barrel and adds value to the gun if and when you sell/trade it. Long Range matches next week at Perry and you can bet a large number of them will be using Krieger barels. Certainly there are other good ones out there, but Krieger has a well deserved excellent reputation.
 
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I have used many different barrels over the past 37 years. The quality ran from excellent to run of the mill. Since I started useing Lothar Walter in (1999) if I remember correctly. the quality has be consistantly excellent & Woody gives his customers personal & sincere service.



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McGowen.
I have a few barrels from them and I was never disappointed.
 
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Just to let you all know, if interested, Krieger has a .338 SS barrel preturned blank available. I had it on hold but decided to pass for now.

I've never heard of McGowen.


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Doc, Mcgowen barrells are out of Kalispell Montana.i just had one put on my 338 md 70. havent had much range time with it yet.im sure it will be a shooter but what impressed me was that after shooting a bunch of Barnes tsx and ttsx the cleanup was exceptionally easy.
 
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I have a Hart, I've had another Hart and a Shilen, if I where building a new rifle I'd probably build it with a Lilja.

a Lilja barrel for my 10-22 jackrabbit rifle is on my personal christmas list.

My Brother has two rifles with Kreigers (factory installed by Weatherby on MkV's, one on a 30-378 Accumark) and both seem to be excellent barrels

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i've had shilen, douglas, pacnor, badger, shaw, AB, lothar, and whatever you wanna call CZ;s barrels..


my next two projects are mcgowens, though pacnor ans shilen make great tubes


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I don't really see a dimes difference in any of them. I would use whatever the gunsmith doing the work preferred. I rarely specify barrel but then I have only commissioned 2 rifles built in all my life. I have built quite a few and just used what was the shortest delevery at the time.


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The name play's a part as well.

I mean; Lilja, Shilen and Lothar Walther, can't get better names than that!
 
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I find it interesting the number of folks who voted for Krieger and Rock, but didn't vote for Obermeyer. I use all three, but voted for Boots. He is the fellow who taught Jack Krieger and Mike Rock how to make barrels!!
 
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Hello Alberta Canuck,
I have a new spare Obermeyer barrel, 30cal., and you are correct it is a superb barrel, but the problem is that the availability if almost nil! Had an M1A w/ his barrel and put nearly 7000 rounds through it and even at the end it would hold the 10 ring @ 600yds easily if I did my part. For some years now have been told that he does special order work for the miltary and you go where the bucks are if you are in the barrel business on a small scale. You are correct though, tough to beat an Obermeyer.
 
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My Brother has two rifles with Kreigers (factory installed by Weatherby on MkV's, one on a 30-378 Accumark) and both seem to be excellent barrels AD


Krieger owns a pull button barrel company named Criterion. These are the bbls that are on factory Weatherbys, unless of course you brother specifically had Weatherby custom build his with Kriegers.

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The name play's a part as well.

I mean; Lilja, Shilen and Lothar Walther, can't get better names than that!


You left out Obermeyer. Hard to leave this name out since he taught a bunch of current bbl makers how to do it.

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I find it interesting the number of folks who voted for Krieger and Rock, but didn't vote for Obermeyer. I use all three, but voted for Boots. He is the fellow who taught Jack Krieger and Mike Rock how to make barrels!!


I agree! However, I would guess that some may have heard that to obtain an Obermeyer bbl these days is a fantasy. He is supplying the military right now per our phone conversation.


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I knew he was building for the military, but can a private individual order one without extreme wait times?? If so, figure he would receive quite a few orders.
 
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I voted for Hart. I bought my first Hart barreled rifle in 1968, and have been using their barrels ever since. That is, for rifles I want with stainless steel barrels. For blued rifles, I use Douglas barrels, with my first one built in 1960. Both makers have barrels that deliver excellent accuracy, provided the gunsmith does his thing right.
From a historical point of view, wasn't G.R. Douglas the first aftermarket custom barrel maker? Then I think Clyde Hart came on the scene? Clyde built my rifle in 1968, and he was making barrels long before that.




 
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I live a short distance from Douglas and visit them from time to time and believe you are correct that they were one of the first strictly barrel mfg.'s. Good operation and good people to deal with in all respects. Quite a few firearms mfg's buy their blanks from Douglas and many are used by U.S. military/LE groups in various forms as well. Recently purchased one of those old H&R Ultra-'69- Rifles in 270Win. and the name itself, Ultra, was given by the fact that H&R bought the L61 R Sako action, Fajen stock, and a Douglas barrel.
 
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I knew he was building for the military, but can a private individual order one without extreme wait times?? If so, figure he would receive quite a few orders.


I called him up out of the blue about 2 weeks ago. He has finished 2 barrels for me and I'm waiting for an email on total so I can send him a check. How's that for speed? thumb


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I just e-mailed Karen Hart, and she says her Grandfather Clyde started making barrels around 1955.
It would be interesting to learn when the others started making their barrels. I believe that Ed Shilen started making his barrels around the same time as Clyde Hart.

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