I know lots of smiths can and would build the rifle for cash, but right now I'm cash strapped so I need to work it as a trade.
I have a DCM issued Garand (what DCM sells as collector grade), and some USGI ammo I am willing to use for trading.
Am looking for a nice rifle to use as a shooter.
PM me if interested.

I assume the garand would be a down payment?

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
I assume the garand would be a down payment?

I doubt that would even be a big enough down payment to get started. If something went wrong then the Smith would be stuck with a trotline weight.

he's not looking for a custom built rifle. wow, guys, the DCM is worth quite a bit over 1400 ..,

one would think a 527 in 223, quick barrel swap, and feeding work should be doable for that.

the "assume downpayment" responses aren't very damn nice to a fella saying he needs to trade... he doesn't have a junker grade m1 .. its at the top of their scale.

Frankly, pretty crumby comments here, 2 days before christmas, in a crummy economy, and a guy trying to work a trade for his family.

i don't care that comment may "offend" .. they need to go find a mirror if they are offended by plain, down home, honest.

jeffeosso

+1

There's more than one way to look at this, obviously.

I kinda read the initial comments as maybe sharp, but not offensive. More like a reality check.

After all, the initial idea isn't right, somehow. Trading a valuable rifle for something custom, when the Garand is readily marketable, and Bob could buy a CZ 527 in 7.62x39, and a pickup load of ammo, and have money left over, for Christmas gifts for the family, to buy onions, and spices, and gravy makings to go along with the venison.

Even those on hard times, and maybe especialy those, might ought to be listening to reality checks. Such times call for being practical, IMO.

KB

James Calhoon builds rifles in his 19 Badger wildcat which is the 30 Carbine necked to 19 cal. He uses CZ 527 rifles originally chambered in 22 Hornet for the conversion. I would think a 30 carbine version wouldn't be all that hard.

I agree with Jeffeosso that a collector grade Garand is worth more money then the general average one is. Frankly I'd hold onto that Garand, bite the bullet, and just wait until I got funds and build that rifle your want.

Tell 'em Jeff!!

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Originally posted by craigster:
James Calhoon builds rifles in his 19 Badger wildcat which is the 30 Carbine necked to 19 cal. He uses CZ 527 rifles originally chambered in 22 Hornet for the conversion. I would think a 30 carbine version wouldn't be all that hard.

there you go..
get a 527 in hornet, and send to ITD for barrel, chambering, feeding, and bluing...


Lee,
Sometimes, when the nights are long, i get a bit grumpy..

+1!!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
he's not looking for a custom built rifle. wow, guys, the DCM is worth quite a bit over 1400 ..,

one would think a 527 in 223, quick barrel swap, and feeding work should be doable for that.

the "assume downpayment" responses aren't very damn nice to a fella saying he needs to trade... he doesn't have a junker grade m1 .. its at the top of their scale.

Frankly, pretty crumby comments here, 2 days before christmas, in a crummy economy, and a guy trying to work a trade for his family.

i don't care that comment may "offend" .. they need to go find a mirror if they are offended by plain, down home, honest.

Try Customguns.us
This guy will work with you and start the build when its 50% payed off. Well that is what he did for me. Its been a few years and things change.
hope this helps.
Judson S Bailey is a great smith and is out of St. Albans Maine. Has his class 7 too.
The custom 96 Mauser in my photo is the one he did for me.

I understood it as a build from scratch. Not a simple rebarrel. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
I understood it as a build from scratch. Not a simple rebarrel. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Sounds like it. But he may already have the bolt action. Guess he should ahve been a wee bit more spasific.

Sorry---just being short and to the point. Do that too often.

To often initial questions don't contain all the information...if they did it would take too long to post and many wouldn't read the post in it's entirety AND with understanding, besides getting lost between the beginning and the end.

AND...TOO OFTEN...something about this forum makes people get real pissy, real fast...AND they think they need to go negative to show their "smarts".

In reality, a large percentage of the responses are nothing but personal opinion...personal likes and dislikes...and personal bias, with little actual fact.

I think a New Years resolution to ALL members on AR would be to STOP THE KRAP and do an anger managemant course. That would make these forums a much better place to go and probably do much better in the information dissemination area...

BUT....I don't hold out much hope this will ever happen.

You can be short and to the point without being a sharp pointed stick...tact is all that is needed.

Luck

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Originally posted by Bob Nisbet:
I know lots of smiths can and would build the rifle for cash, but right now I'm cash strapped so I need to work it as a trade.
I have a DCM issued Garand (what DCM sells as collector grade), and some USGI ammo I am willing to use for trading.
Am looking for a nice rifle to use as a shooter.
PM me if interested.

Hey did you get any headway on your build? Has anyone gotten in touch with you about this build? I like the idea, how many 30 Carbine Bolt Guns are there out there.

Idk how many 30carbs. But I have one of the very few 30 mausers.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Idk how many 30carbs. But I have one of the very few 30 mausers.

Nice, Send me Photos!

Sent you a PM, I think this could be done on one of the newer centerfeed Savage 223 actions with likely not more than a barrel swap.

Case length is short enough it will take some ejector tuning to get it out of the port before falling off the ejector though.


If not, rebarreling one of the Model 25's might be the ticket.

In regards to Jim Calhoun's 527 conversions- the 527 is available in .221, so I assume that would make it a candidate for a .30 Whisper, if I have my parent cases correct- ?

Bob

Just curious, why a 30 Carbine bolt rifle?

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Bob

Just curious, why a 30 Carbine bolt rifle?

Why not?

Great starter gun or a great one for someone who cannot handle the recoil.
I have an M1 Carbine and getting a bolt gun will greatly improve accuracy.

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Originally posted by tin can:
In regards to Jim Calhoun's 527 conversions- the 527 is available in .221, so I assume that would make it a candidate for a .30 Whisper, if I have my parent cases correct- ?

Parent for the Whisper was the 221. So, the 527 should work with a barrel change and whatever needed (if anything) to make it feed.

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Originally posted by fireball168:
Sent you a PM, I think this could be done on one of the newer centerfeed Savage 223 actions with likely not more than a barrel swap.

It works, shot a 20 shot group this afternoon that measures about 1.75", including the scope sighters.

PTG SAAMI reamer, 12 twist McGowen, 16" sporter contour stainless.

I didn't think it would feed without building a ramp at the front of the magazine box - but it does.