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Williams or Lyman
29 October 2005, 06:43
VFR1Williams or Lyman
Recommendation needed for receiver sight for a Mauser sporter. Williams or Lyman? Other suggestions? Thanks, Bob
29 October 2005, 06:49
Hog KillerLook on ebay, for a classic receiver sight, the Lyman 48. It was made with more skill than the new stuff is. IMHO
Here is one on my Rem. 30S
Hog Killer
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29 October 2005, 07:15
willmckeewhat hog killer said. the williams are "ok" but i'm not crazy abt aluminum and one of mine on a 30-30 the screw head broke half off last time i tried to adjust it. the new lymans have an alum base. again "ok" but they're $55 or so, maybe more now. you'll have to keep trying as they're real popular on ebay but there's plenty of them and can usually get a good OLD all steel redfield or lyman for $35-50.
roger
29 October 2005, 17:34
VFR1So either is good as long as it's steel? Looks like you don't use the screw in apetures, just the housing. Would be sorta like a halo sight. Thanks
29 October 2005, 17:59
260remguyLyman and Redfield made some high quality steel receiver sights. I've never seen a Williams that wasn't made from alloy, but they are strong, accurate, and generally less expensive that either the Lyman or Redfield.
Jeff
29 October 2005, 20:50
jeffeossomy only problem with the williams is the color never matches the rest of the gun
williams tend to be smaller, and therefore don't require as deep a cut in the stock
jeffe
29 October 2005, 21:16
Hog Killerquote:
Originally posted by VFR1:
So either is good as long as it's steel? Looks like you don't use the screw in apetures, just the housing. Would be sorta like a halo sight. Thanks
Yes, I am using it as a ghost ring sight. For a hunting rifle, this allows for a faster sight picture and better low light useage. With the apeture in place you MAY be able to draw a "finer bead" but a cost in speed and low light conditions. Taken to an extream, a target peep (very small apeture), you cannot see anything through it in a lower light condition. One where any othre sight is still usable.
Hog Killer
IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
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29 October 2005, 21:25
AtkinsonMy choice of the receiver sights is the Williams guide sight as it sit on top of the rear receiver ring and no crap hanging off on one side or the other like a growth!

I have been using that little compact peep for years..You can see on on my recently built 10.75x68 on the African thread under the perfect African rifle...
I have a number of old Redfields around here someplace and never use them..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
29 October 2005, 23:42
VFR1Thanks guys. Last question--will an old Lyman 48 for an FN Mauser work on a military Mauser such as a 98/22 or VZ24? Bob
30 October 2005, 00:20
VFR1One more last question. The old Redfield 102 looks like a simple piece that would not require much stock work and it's all steel. My stock is an original type A Mauser unit and I don't want to modify it if at all possible. Bob
30 October 2005, 00:51
BarstoolerGet a good Lyman. I always felt that the actual arpeture or "hole" on Williams reciever sight had too much metal around it (e.g., it was thicker). This always distracted me, and the thicker metal made the hole "darker" and made finding the front blade harder. In other words, I could always get on target quicker with a Lyman.
Barstooler