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Does anyone make a decent small ring triggerguard and floorplate? I started a 6.5x55 FN small ring project and all I have is a badly pitted military guard and plate.
 
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Try Numrich or SARCO for gun parts.
 
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I don't know what you mean by "decent" but there are a few after-market units available. Blackburn, Sound Metal Products and Sunny Hill all make units that will fit. FYI, small ring or large ring doesn't matter as much as bolt hole spacing. I'm not familiar with an FN small ring, what is the hole spacing and box opening length on your action?


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If, your action is one of the FN-Browning small ring versions originally used for .308Win. and .243Win. rifles, you have a real gem, IMHO. Any of the bottom metal that fits the std. ring FN actions will also fit these, I have a few of them in various stages of being "customized" and I would choose a "Sound Metal Products" as I find the one I bought from Duane to be just awesome.

However, I am coming to prefer cutting all possible weight from any of my hunting rifles as I prefer to hunt in the Kootenay region of BC, very steep and rugged country.So, in a light 6.5x55 and that is a really neat choice in that action, I might look into a blind mag. as I would be using a synthetic stock.

I have also had Sunny Hill bottom metal and it is very nicely done. An older Mark X unit would work well and cost far less, while the steel FN units also work well, but, seem a bot heavy to me.

What are you going to do for a stock?
 
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i assume you have a husky/fn action, which is also the 96 based action.

if its a small ring 98 full length, any 98 bottom metal will work

if its a 96 or a short action 98 (mexican length)
then use the 96 based bottoms


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Thanks for the replies guys. The only markings on this Mauser are Fabrique Nationale Herstal-Liege on the front ring. No crest or any other names but there are some small stampings on the underside of the action. I dont have its original barrel so I have no idea what it was originally chambered for but I think I will be fine turning it into 6.5x55. I dont have it at home with me but I will Monday and will post some pictures. I know it measured .980 dia, cocks on close, has a square bolt face bottom, and thats about it from memory. Im not sure what else would help with figuring out what exactly it is without pictures and measurements. It is also milled out for stripper clips ahead of the rear bridge but there is no thumb cut on the left side of the action. Any help in figuring out exactly what it is would be appreciated.
 
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Sound like you have a Mauser 93 action.

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A square face bolt bottom? Do you mean that the bottom of the bolt is flat. Flat bottom bolts were a feature of the M93 Mauser. M93 bolts with flat bottom bolt heads are not interchangeable in receivers made for round head bolts.
 
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cocks on close, has a square bolt face bottom


Don't know anything about this one. It's probably going to take some pictures and more measurements to provide an accurate answer.


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As far as I know, FN never made 93s.
 
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As far as I know, FN never made 93s.


Well, I could be wrong. According to de Haas in "Bolt Action Rifles" FN produced 93s for Brazil. I've never seen a Brazilian M93.
 
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what you describe must be have been a Belgian model 1898 Infantry rifle.

Small ring , cocks on closing, small ejector claw (Not the non rotating extractor claw),
Bolt stop resembles the Argentine 1909.

Those rifles had originally the early style single row magazines .

If so , it will be hard to find a mauser triggerguard unit( of the later common type) that will fit.
 
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Hi Dewey,

I have an FN Browning M98 in .308, and am wondering if it is a true small ring action (with the small diameter barrel shank threads), or if it is (as I suspect) a large ring action ground externally to small ring contour.

Have you pulled any of the barrels on your custom projects? What did you find?

Thanks,

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Thanks for the replies guys. The only markings on this Mauser are Fabrique Nationale Herstal-Liege on the front ring. No crest or any other names but there are some small stampings on the underside of the action. I dont have its original barrel so I have no idea what it was originally chambered for but I think I will be fine turning it into 6.5x55. I dont have it at home with me but I will Monday and will post some pictures. I know it measured .980 dia, cocks on close, has a square bolt face bottom, and thats about it from memory. Im not sure what else would help with figuring out what exactly it is without pictures and measurements. It is also milled out for stripper clips ahead of the rear bridge but there is no thumb cut on the left side of the action. Any help in figuring out exactly what it is would be appreciated.


Any intermediate length bottom metal will work. This includes 93's, 95's, 96's and intermediate 98's such as the M24 (not vz24), 24/47, M48's.

Sarco or Kebco recently had new Swede bottom metal. While they will all fit the action they may not fit the stock as the original did but if you are restocking it's not an issue.

By the way, Husqvarna made their own 96 actions. They only used FN supplied 98's both military style and commercial.




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Hi Dewey,

I have an FN Browning M98 in .308, and am wondering if it is a true small ring action (with the small diameter barrel shank threads), or if it is (as I suspect) a large ring action ground externally to small ring contour.

Have you pulled any of the barrels on your custom projects? What did you find?

Thanks,

Ken


Sorry for any misunderstanding, my rifles are all on "large" ring FNs. I honestly do not know but would suggest e-mailing FN and asking them.

These are rare, I have handled only a half-dozen in my many years of this insanity and have never really seen one with the barrel off. Wish I could be of more help, but, that's about it.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys. The only markings on this Mauser are Fabrique Nationale Herstal-Liege on the front ring. No crest or any other names but there are some small stampings on the underside of the action. I dont have its original barrel so I have no idea what it was originally chambered for but I think I will be fine turning it into 6.5x55. I dont have it at home with me but I will Monday and will post some pictures. I know it measured .980 dia, cocks on close, has a square bolt face bottom, and thats about it from memory. Im not sure what else would help with figuring out what exactly it is without pictures and measurements. It is also milled out for stripper clips ahead of the rear bridge but there is no thumb cut on the left side of the action. Any help in figuring out exactly what it is would be appreciated.


Any intermediate length bottom metal will work. This includes 93's, 95's, 96's and intermediate 98's such as the M24 (not vz24), 24/47, M48's.

Sarco or Kebco recently had new Swede bottom metal. While they will all fit the action they may not fit the stock as the original did but if you are restocking it's not an issue.

By the way, Husqvarna made their own 96 actions. They only used FN supplied 98's both military style and commercial.


96 swede's and the yugo 48's have a longer magbox than the 93's. Screw spacing is the same though.
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Well I finally got a chance to take some pictures of my FN action. Let me know if you guys need any other angles to better determine what it is.

I cant get my pictures to work so here is a link to the album.

FN Small Ring
 
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Thanks for the replies guys. The only markings on this Mauser are Fabrique Nationale Herstal-Liege on the front ring. No crest or any other names but there are some small stampings on the underside of the action. I dont have its original barrel so I have no idea what it was originally chambered for but I think I will be fine turning it into 6.5x55. I dont have it at home with me but I will Monday and will post some pictures. I know it measured .980 dia, cocks on close, has a square bolt face bottom, and thats about it from memory. Im not sure what else would help with figuring out what exactly it is without pictures and measurements. It is also milled out for stripper clips ahead of the rear bridge but there is no thumb cut on the left side of the action. Any help in figuring out exactly what it is would be appreciated.


Any intermediate length bottom metal will work. This includes 93's, 95's, 96's and intermediate 98's such as the M24 (not vz24), 24/47, M48's.

Sarco or Kebco recently had new Swede bottom metal. While they will all fit the action they may not fit the stock as the original did but if you are restocking it's not an issue.

By the way, Husqvarna made their own 96 actions. They only used FN supplied 98's both military style and commercial.


96 swede's and the yugo 48's have a longer magbox than the 93's. Screw spacing is the same though.
Don


Depends on the '93 as some were altered for 8x57.




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Well I finally got a chance to take some pictures of my FN action. Let me know if you guys need any other angles to better determine what it is.

I cant get my pictures to work so here is a link to the album.

FN Small Ring


Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no rational reason to put any money at all into this action. Find something worthy to build on.

Good luck to you.


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Originally posted by CMWill:
Well I finally got a chance to take some pictures of my FN action. Let me know if you guys need any other angles to better determine what it is.

I cant get my pictures to work so here is a link to the album.

FN Small Ring


Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no rational reason to put any money at all into this action. Find something worthy to build on.

Good luck to you.


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When was the last time any of us did anything rational in this hobby?


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Your action will be fine as a 6.5x55 but it'll never be a silk purse. If you merely want original-style bottom metal, I'll happily give you a military TG complete with FP.

That's give, as in free gratis as W.C. Fields used to say, if you'll pay the postage.

Sorry no guard screws or spring or follower, just the TG & FP with latch. If you want anything a lot better then you'll hafta shell out the shekels and what's in your pictures isn't worth any big expense. It'll make a fine truck gun or beginner smithing project but that's all it'll ever be, sorry.

PM me if you're interested.
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