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Serial Number 1 is nearing completion. It will be a two barrel set, .375 Flanged and .500 NE. Pictures below show progress to date.





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Lovely,beautiful work. Reminiscant of so many traits,traditions and a beautiful synthesis.

Congratulations!!!I'll be looking hard at the final results.

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Keep up the good work Karl!


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Curious as to how much time and effort in changing barrels. Is this somthing that can be easily do in the field/camp? With the difference in rim size I would guess that there would need to be an extractor change out as well.

Your project is very classic.

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That is really beautiful! Congratulations and best wishes,


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Karl,

That rifle is gorgeous. Will you be offering it without the switch barrel set up ?

P.S do you have any pictures or computer sketches of the new N-3 action that your company is working on?

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Anticipated pricing? (action in the white)


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Curious as to how much time and effort in changing barrels. Is this somthing that can be easily do in the field/camp? With the difference in rim size I would guess that there would need to be an extractor change out as well.

Your project is very classic.

Hog Killer


Full Thread Take down system, using hand wrench. The block is removed and yes in this case the extractor would also be changed. The forend is keyed. This can easily be done in a few minutes anywhere.


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That rifle is gorgeous. Will you be offering it without the switch barrel set up ?

P.S do you have any pictures or computer sketches of the new N-3 action that your company is working on?

Harris


Yes it will be offered as a two barrel set, single barrel or just an action. The N-3 is not new were have been producing them for several years now.


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Anticipated pricing? (action in the white)


Anticipated pricing for and action in the white is around $2500.00


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P.S do you have any pictures or computer sketches of the new N-3 action that your company is working on?

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Yes it will be offered as a two barrel set, single barrel or just an action. The N-3 is not new were have been producing them for several years now.

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I just saw the banner ad on your website for a charter offer of a rifle for $1,995 and assumed that you might be doing something similar to dakota 97.

Does that rifle use the same action the other models are based on? only difference being a blind mag and round bridge?


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P.S do you have any pictures or computer sketches of the new N-3 action that your company is working on?

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Yes it will be offered as a two barrel set, single barrel or just an action. The N-3 is not new were have been producing them for several years now.

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I just saw the banner ad on your website for a charter offer of a rifle for $1,995 and assumed that you might be doing something similar to dakota 97.

Does that rifle use the same action the other models are based on? only difference being a blind mag and round bridge?[/QUOTE]

Yes, the tracker is the same only blind magazine and round bridge only. Although we have not had enough interest in the elite model "wood stock", we are going to offer the 'Tracker' in the synthetic stock.


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Outstanding! Just beautiful! There's nothing like a single-shot!


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Karl,

That is a beautiful rifle!!!
 
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These pictures are just a couple of quick snapshots taken in our shop. The lower tang, which is not visible in either picture ends immediately behind the trigger,very much like a #1 Ruger. The barrel threads on this size (medium) receiver are 1x16 and the receiver is very close to the #1 in approximate size. This action differs from many in that it is a cock on closing. Dave Caboth who designed and built the rifle in the pictures, is a High Wall fan of long standing and incorporated this feature in his design. This is the smoothest working falling block I have handled to date.


The design of the upper tang should allow more than sufficient lattitude to accommidate a wide range of stock patterns.

While the forearm appears to be flat bottomed rest assured it is not. Creative filing of the front of the reciever will allow it to be styled to the stockmakers taste. Extra material can be left in this area if desired.

Sincerly,

Greg Hein


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The breech end of the forend looks very slab-sided, flat on the bottom and square to me. Most single shot actions have a bit of contour on the bottom, coming up to side flats, partially to prevent this.
Also, does the lower tang need to be that long? I would prefer it shorter, so the stocker could determine his own notion of the grip curve, which might be very different. Can it be shortened?
Both of these problems are frequently encountered with older British actions. It would be a shame not to avoid them when creating as new action. Some of it could be rectified by good stock design.
I assume this is a large action? What are the approximate height, length, width dimensions? Weight? Barrel shank?
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I think what you’re seeing as a long lower tang is a shadow on the material behind the rifle.
 
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steve: so happy to see you did not use a pesky schable forend on that hiwall, I am tired of them on SS rifles ........ and don't like them much on bolt guns either. mark
 
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correction, schnable not schable
 
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Gnmkr,
you are comparing the high wall, which is a small, delicate, petite action with a farquharson style, rugged, large, meant for Nitro express rounds.

Both have their place in guns, and styling queques.

Here's a couple more pitures of the farq and farq style guns, to place what they are copying clearly in frame.








several great pictures of a fine farq

In short, they accomplished exactly what they were after, a better farq style action, over coming a huge and well known limitation on the back of the action (feeding, biting the hand that feeds it). Job well done... That it's not a high wall, that is what it is.

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I sort of like jeffe's lectures roflmao jump
 
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I assume this is a large action?

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And I certainly don't need a lecture from Jeffe about single shots.
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Wasn't a lecture, was my opinion, which is just as valid as your own to post your preferences.

exactly ike you saying, regarding the farq and it's copies
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Both of these problems are frequently encountered with older British actions


of course that's an opinion... most people have them, amonst other things and conditions.


Bet neither of us care about this exchange in a month anyway;.

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The various Farquharsons have a terrific aura of glamour, probably because of African use and because so many of them were nicely stocked and well engraved by premier British makers. But overall they seem ungainly in appearance and overly complicated mechanically compared to Browning's Winchester High Wall, which IMHO is the outstanding design from the single shot heyday.
 
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It appears we've moved on from this discussion but, it's a close rendition of a webley action with redesigned/simplified innards. It talks about this action in Jonathon Kirton's book on single shots.

It's a beautiful action. I duplicated the buttstock for him and was an excellent pattern to work from as well. The forearms we're made from the blank.

Dave and I go back to 1989 when he was an instructor at Colorado School of Trades and I was a student. He dreamed up a reamer at this time dubbed the .416 N.E. It's based on the 404 Jeffery case shortened about .3". I chambered mine in school and just finished a couple of years ago. If I knew how to post a picture of it I would. Excellent caliber, the shiras moose I took with it a couple of years ago had no complaints.

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Would that be this one, Shane?


Now don't be asking me to do this all the time. It's quite a proceedure going from a 4x5 transparency
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Yep, that's the one. I almost asked but figured you may have better ways to spend your time. I'll get my wife, the brains of my operation on the job of posting the pic with the moose,(no offense but it's the good one despite the $30 dollar camera). What did you pay for your camera?

I've been ribbed about which I'm showing off more the moose or the gun.

Thanks a bunch,
Shane
 
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