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Inside-The-Bow Release Bottom Metal for Model 70's

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19 June 2007, 23:28
triggerguard1
Inside-The-Bow Release Bottom Metal for Model 70's
Well guys, I know a lot of you have been waiting patiently for us to get these things done, but they're finally here.

The website still has the older design pictured, since we haven't gotten our images back from our photographer yet, but all of the models we are making now are all of the new design with the latch inside the bow.

All bottom metal is CNC machined from a solid forging, with no pins, or welds holding the two together....This is a true one-piece bottom metal.
Each every piece is drafted 2deg. for easier inletting and the trigger slot has now been modified on the long-action models to accept jewell triggers without any modifications.

This new bottom metal utilizes the same footprint as our older models or those found on the Super Grades and Safari Express rifles of recent production at USRAC.
The only inletting that would be necessary if you were changing from our old model to the new one would be in the corners where the rail area meets the trigger guard. Our old models had a sharp corner, where is the new ones have a .130 radius. This means that with about 2 minutes with a sharp chisel or exacto knife, you'll get it to drop right in.

I apologize in advance for the bad photography work, but my claim to fame is machining.....not snapping pics. Big Grin

Pictured below in-the-white is our Pre-64 model and the blued model is our Long-Action. Short-actions will be a bit longer as we are trying to build up some inventory of not only our Winchester guards, but the Remington bottom metal as well.







Williams Machine Works

20 June 2007, 00:48
22WRF
Matt

don't waste your time building up inventory for those Remington products!!!! Instead, make sure and get your inventory built up for the Winchester products first. Big Grin Big Grin

What is the pricing on these units?
20 June 2007, 01:54
Masterifleman
That looks great! My only complaint is that you waited so long to bring them out I have to try to find someone to sell the two previous models I bought from you so I can buy these.


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20 June 2007, 04:51
Bill Soverns
Hey.....looks pretty snazy there Matt. Thank you for the update!
20 June 2007, 07:25
Brad
Mine arrived today... great!






20 June 2007, 07:29
James C Scott
Thanks Matt,
I'd been checking your website regularly. Thanks for letting us know they're ready to ship. I just ordered one (I only have one long action). Let us know when the short actions are ready.
Here's a vote for the Howa 1500/Weatherby vangard bottom metal as well.
20 June 2007, 07:39
jeffeosso
nice matt!!
i'll try to call tomorrow


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20 June 2007, 09:58
JKS
Great! I really like inside the bow floorplate releases and this will be just the thing for my pre-64 375 Big Grin

Thanks Matt beer

John


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20 June 2007, 12:48
mho
Matt, will the short metal fit a short MRC M1999??

- mike


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20 June 2007, 15:20
fireball168
quote:
Here's a vote for the Howa 1500/Weatherby vangard bottom metal as well.


Is this still on the table???
20 June 2007, 19:10
jorge
Matt: Is this one of yours? jorge

Custom pre-64


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20 June 2007, 20:01
bay
I received mine yesterday and the in the bow release is a nice surprise!

Thx Matt.

-brian
20 June 2007, 21:25
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Matt: Is this one of yours? jorge

Custom pre-64


Nope....

Notice that the floorplate hinge protrudes down, rather than being hidden under the stock. That's the quickest giveaway.
We also haven't made a 3-piece designed floorplate for the pre-64; only the one-piece style.


Williams Machine Works

20 June 2007, 21:39
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by mho:
Matt, will the short metal fit a short MRC M1999??

- mike


When we first started working with MRC several years ago, our bottom metal is what they used for a pattern, so I would imagine that unless they've changed some drastically, yes.....it should work just fine.
Keep in mind that on the short-actions, we don't have the inside-the-bow release system in production yet. You can still get the push-button style for now, but most folks are liking the new style much better.

As a note, we have officially dropped the other style and this will be the only one we make.

Something else that has changed, which the online store currently reflects, is that we have changed our price structures, but now offer dealer discounts on our one-piece bottom metal.
Retail prices are higher than before, but the cost of upgrading to finished part over in-the-white is less.
There was a variety of different reasons that we had to do this, but the main factor was an increase in our stagnant overhead. It was substantial and has had a serious impact on the bottom line.
While our prices have increased, I know most of you will recognize that it is still the best deal in town on this style of bottom metal. We're still half the price of our competition and as more and more people are able to get their hands on them and report back; you'll see you're not sacrificing quality for the price.

If you are a dealer, please call our toll-free number at 1-888-257-3006 and you can setup your account with us for dealer discounts.
We will soon offer the convenience of dealers who are in our system to shop online as well, without having to call.


Williams Machine Works

20 June 2007, 21:40
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by fireball168:
quote:
Here's a vote for the Howa 1500/Weatherby vangard bottom metal as well.


Is this still on the table???


It is, but it's taken a helluva back seat.

Lot's of irons in the fire right now, including our new trigger and sear assemblies, so I'm not forcasting any dates at this time.


Williams Machine Works

20 June 2007, 23:21
ForrestB
Matt, that's nice work you're offering at a really nice price. Now, there's no excuse for anyone having bad bottom metal on a M70.


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21 June 2007, 02:26
Masterifleman
quote:
Here's a vote for the Howa 1500/Weatherby vangard bottom metal as well.


I'll add my $.02 for the Howa/Weatherby bottom metal.


"I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them" - George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment during the Virginia convention to ratify the Constitution
21 June 2007, 04:06
22WRF
quote:
the main factor was an increase in our stagnant overhead.




Probably a big increase in salary for the Vice President of the company.

jumping
21 June 2007, 04:13
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
quote:
the main factor was an increase in our stagnant overhead.




Probably a big increase in salary for the Vice President of the company.

jumping


Anything at this point would be an increase........
This hasn't been the best of years to say the least. Frowner


Williams Machine Works

22 June 2007, 02:20
James C Scott
quote:
Originally posted by triggerguard1:
quote:
Originally posted by fireball168:
[QUOTE]Here's a vote for the Howa 1500/Weatherby vangard bottom metal as well.


Is this still on the table???


It is, but it's taken a helluva back seat.


Matt,

That's great! Big Grin Glad to hear they're still in the plan. Later's a lot better than never.
22 June 2007, 16:11
TMG
Those look great but how the hell am I gonna get it fit to my Mausers?

Todd Wink
22 June 2007, 19:09
Blueprinted
I got one for my 700 when they first came out. It is awesome. really over built compared to the POS that Rem uses.
25 June 2007, 02:54
Chuck Nelson
Matt, I went ahead and ordered one of these online last week. They look fantastic! Are they in stock, or are they being made as they are ordered? I'm going to swap this unit for one of the older style and was just wondering if I should put the old one up for sale now, or should I waite. Thanks.

Chuck
25 June 2007, 21:27
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Nelson:
Matt, I went ahead and ordered one of these online last week. They look fantastic! Are they in stock, or are they being made as they are ordered? I'm going to swap this unit for one of the older style and was just wondering if I should put the old one up for sale now, or should I waite. Thanks.

Chuck


Yours was shipped out I believe on Thursday, so you'll be seeing it very soon.


Williams Machine Works

26 June 2007, 03:45
Chuck Nelson
Thanks a bunch Matt!
26 June 2007, 22:36
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Nelson:
Thanks a bunch Matt!


Chuck, I apologize for the mixup on your order. I inspected the part that was going to you last Thursday and the invoice that was created, but later found out yesterday afternoon that it never left.
It did go out for sure yesterday and I'm sorry for the delay and the fact that I got your hopes up of it showing up any day as well.

I check over each and every part that leaves this place and make the final call on whether it's good to go or not. I saw your name and immediately recognized it, which is why I mentioned it was ready. Every other time that would have occured the order would have left, but it figures that the one time I open my mouth on long-time customer's order, I get bit in the ass over it.

Well, I hope you're not too dissapointed and again I apologize for the mixup.......The good news is that it is coming this time for sure.

Thanks again for the business and I hope you enjoy it.


Williams Machine Works

27 June 2007, 03:03
Chuck Nelson
Not a problem at all. I look forward to recieving it.

Chuck
27 June 2007, 04:22
moleman
I have two questions for Matt or anyone who's received theirs already: is the footprint of the floorplate the same as the factory floorplate, or does it extend further to the rear? Is it any wider?

I've got some rifles whose stocks taper in quite quickly behind the factory floorplate and I'm wondering if the Williams floorplate will hang over the edge or not.

Thanks,
Kurt


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27 June 2007, 22:22
triggerguard1
quote:
Originally posted by moleman:
I have two questions for Matt or anyone who's received theirs already: is the footprint of the floorplate the same as the factory floorplate, or does it extend further to the rear? Is it any wider?

I've got some rifles whose stocks taper in quite quickly behind the factory floorplate and I'm wondering if the Williams floorplate will hang over the edge or not.

Thanks,
Kurt


It's not a drop-in, unless you've bought a factory Super Grade or Safari Express in the last 5 years that had our one-piece in it from the factory.
The footprint is identical to that model, but the floorplate is longer, since it is a straddle-type, rather than only coming up to the trigger guard.
It works great on a factory stock, but if someone got carried away with removing too much material from area right behind the floorplate, you could end up with some hangover.

Without having the stock and bottom metal together to look at, it would be difficult to determine whether you would have a problem or not.


Williams Machine Works

28 June 2007, 00:15
moleman
quote:
Originally posted by triggerguard1:

The footprint is identical to that model, but the floorplate is longer, since it is a straddle-type, rather than only coming up to the trigger guard.
It works great on a factory stock, but if someone got carried away with removing too much material from area right behind the floorplate, you could end up with some hangover.


Thanks Matt, that's what I assumed but I didn't know if the floorplate extended back or if the trigger guard was elongated to the front. For that reason I ordered just one of your units for now (order # 741) and I’ll measure off that to see whether it will work out or not before I order more. The rifles in question are custom stocked pre-64's and a couple are slimmed down quite a bit compared to the factory stock.

Kurt


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