quote:

Think "Tuna".

Nope,no way, I was told it was "Jasmine"

quote:

Originally posted by jimmyd223:

quote:

Think "Tuna".

Nope,no way, I was told it was "Jasmine"

Better Jamsmine than vinegar and water.

ok I got it figured out-

oxpho can't smell because weagle's mauser is at least thirty years old, and as is proven in the photo, it's table-grade.



(leaves, considers using the bull fiddle avatar again)

Matt,

Unlike you and our moderator, I don’t comment on subjects or products that I don’t have personal experience with.

You and Jeffe never seem to let that stop you though. You don’t know squat about 1903 Springfield bolts but post ludicrous statements about them anyway, and Jeffe doesn’t know much about ANYTHING that I have seen but continually tosses in his BS just the same.

I spoke ONLY to the cold blue (Oxpho-Blue) that I own and have used over the years. The other brands may stink to high heaven and make you produce kids with twelve eyes for all I know, I have never used them so I have no way of knowing.

I have a life thank you, and my daddy didn’t have to set me up in business so I could pretend to be somebody.

I've tried most of them. The worst stink is that Birchwood Casey stuff. Damn near took my head off when I tried it. I use the Oxpho blue cream. Easy to use, does a great job for touch-ups, and no smell that I can detect.

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
Matt,

Unlike you and our moderator, I don’t comment on subjects or products that I don’t have personal experience with.

You and Jeffe never seem to let that stop you though. You don’t know squat about 1903 Springfield bolts but post ludicrous statements about them anyway, and Jeffe doesn’t know much about ANYTHING that I have seen but continually tosses in his BS just the same.

I spoke ONLY to the cold blue (Oxpho-Blue) that I own and have used over the years. The other brands may stink to high heaven and make you produce kids with twelve eyes for all I know, I have never used them so I have no way of knowing.

I have a life thank you, and my daddy didn’t have to set me up in business so I could pretend to be somebody.

The more you post.....the more you prove yourself to be the forum's biggest jackass.

FYJ


After your latest and greatest post........you claim to only post on subjects you know about......good grief, you are a phucking idiot.

You neither know our company's history, nor my own personal history as it pertains to my line of work or knowledge in respect to fireams, yet you make statements like that.

You're a piece of work...I'll give you that.


You were called out last time, but being the slither back that you are, you couldn't back up your BS.....same as now.

Go back to slithering around your rock and let the rest of us have an intelligent forum, composed of helpful, kind, and generous contributors.....


Good day.

Matt!!!

If your going to say phuck.......just say it. FUCK!



And now back to your regularly scheduled programming............

quote:

Originally posted by triggerguard1:

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
Matt,

Unlike you and our moderator, I don’t comment on subjects or products that I don’t have personal experience with.

You and Jeffe never seem to let that stop you though. You don’t know squat about 1903 Springfield bolts but post ludicrous statements about them anyway, and Jeffe doesn’t know much about ANYTHING that I have seen but continually tosses in his BS just the same.

I spoke ONLY to the cold blue (Oxpho-Blue) that I own and have used over the years. The other brands may stink to high heaven and make you produce kids with twelve eyes for all I know, I have never used them so I have no way of knowing.

I have a life thank you, and my daddy didn’t have to set me up in business so I could pretend to be somebody.

The more you post.....the more you prove yourself to be the forum's biggest jackass.

FYJ


After your latest and greatest post........you claim to only post on subjects you know about......good grief, you are a phucking idiot.

You neither know our company's history, nor my own personal history as it pertains to my line of work or knowledge in respect to fireams, yet you make statements like that.

You're a piece of work...I'll give you that.


You were called out last time, but being the slither back that you are, you couldn't back up your BS.....same as now.

Go back to slithering around your rock and let the rest of us have an intelligent forum, composed of helpful, kind, and generous contributors.....


Good day.

Don’t feel bad, allot of dad’s set their sons up in business. You’re one of the lucky ones. Some of us have had to make it on our own in life.

Who “called me out†and on what subject may I ask?

Have you bothered yet to find a 1903 Springfield bolt to see if they assemble the way you stated they did Mister “Master Craftsman?†Or, have you been too busy writing computer code?

Perhaps the discussions on here would proceed much better if you and the moderator didn’t post so much bullshit and then spend days trying to talk your way out of and around your lies.

How’s that action coming along that you have been bragging about for, what is it now, ten years or so?

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
I guess this must be another case like the infamous NECG peep sights where the stuff I buy gets custom made just for me and isn’t like the stuff our moderator has, or “claims†he has.

yeah... a GREAT point...

since you dont' own a ruger, nor take the importers word for function, then CLAIM they funciton the same...

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
I do not own the NECG Ruger model so perhaps Dr. Lou can verify if his has the same elevation mechanism as mine does.

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
BTW, the elevation mechanism and the aperture discs are the same for both the NECG Weaver and Ruger peep sights, so therefore what would be true with one would be true for the other on this topic.

Let me make a picture for you..

even FYJ should be able to tell the difference between



and


about the ONLY simularity is the name of the importer...

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
This is just one more example (in a very long list) of our moderator spouting off about something of which he has absolutely no knowledge or experience.

funny how often you accuse me of this, when it is glaringly apparent the shoe is on the other foot.

here's a great one, where you argue about something you've never laid eyes, much less hands on

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
I do not own the NECG Ruger model

but you'll argue for 3 pages how right you are.

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
Matt,

Unlike you and our moderator, I don’t comment on subjects or products that I don’t have personal experience with.

REALLY?!?

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
Isn’t it strange that every single time Jeffeosso gets caught lying the same guys come on to defend him and attack the people who caught him in his lies???

actually, isn't it strange that EVERY time you post you BS, and get called on it, you resort to mudslinging rather than sticking to facts?

isn't it ODD that whenever you spew out crap you start accusing others of doing EXACTLY what you are doing?



In short, FYJ, your lack of a sense of smell, your amazing brazing (er, soldering) technique, and your experience ...

well, just proves my signature with EVERY post YOU make.

Let's see some pics of your work, bub...

how about CONSTRUCTIVE discussion?

or do you just want to go cry wolf (again... ) <sigh>

So, much like your attempts to tell saeed how to run the place, why don't you send him an email... and air your complaints...

give that a go, it worked so well for you before.

jeffe

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:

Don’t feel bad, allot of dad’s set their sons up in business. You’re one of the lucky ones. Some of us have had to make it on our own in life.

Who “called me out†and on what subject may I ask?

Have you bothered yet to find a 1903 Springfield bolt to see if they assemble the way you stated they did Mister “Master Craftsman?†Or, have you been too busy writing computer code?

Perhaps the discussions on here would proceed much better if you and the moderator didn’t post so much bullshit and then spend days trying to talk your way out of and around your lies.

How’s that action coming along that you have been bragging about for, what is it now, ten years or so?

I don't feel bad at all, considering our current business was started by yours truely and my two brothers, while my father was still working a regular job, doing CNC machine work.
Once our first contract with USRAC came through, he quit his job and went full-time in shop.
Once again, you show your ignorance on subject you could never know, yet you still post as though you do......Of course, there's really no reason for you to break the pattern now is there?

Since your lack of reading comprehension is only surpassed by your arrogance and stupidity, I guess it would suffice to say that you don't recall me mentioning the working of a Pre-War Model 70 firing pin assembly, which is what I was describing in the other post. Yes......I put together my post in bits and pieces, and didn't reread it, until after I was on the thread. I recognized the confusion and acknowledged it to you as well.....probably don't remember that either.

You were called out when I made the offer that anytime you wanted to compare firearm knowledge, either by design or function, I'd be more than happy to oblige......you left that thread.

I didn't have to go further than my desk for the 1903 that I've had for over 15 years.....

I've been a member of this forum for a lot longer than you and up until you came on here, discussions were pleasant, even if two parties or more disagreed.
At one time we had a vast amount of extremely knowledgable, helpful people, that while didn't always agreed on the same subjects, respected each other's opinions enough to respectfully agree to disagree. I sure can't say that about this forum any longer.

As far as the action; it's coming along just fine and thanks for asking.

In all seriousness though FYJ, I really could care less how much you think you "got me"......for a guy who isn't even qualified to pack my lunch, I hardly feel threatened.

My first post on this thread was an attempt to head off the what-has-now-become-normal mood of nearly every thread you contribute to, without taking sides, and perhaps clearing up some of the confusion. I also asked a question that was never answered, but it was more for amusement than anything else.

But, one thing I have learned from this is; Oxpho-Blue doesn't stink, but your replies do.

The thread has been pretty entertaining. Almost feel bad about getting it back on topic.

Anyone have any familiarity with Van's Instant Gun Blue?

http://www.vansgunblue.com/
http://shootersolutions.com/vaningunblu.html

quote:

But, one thing I have learned from this is; Oxpho-Blue doesn't stink

Matt Williams V.P.
Williams Firearms Company Inc.

OOP's Matt, the "Master Moderator" has said it stinks.

quote:

Originally posted by jimmyd223:

quote:

But, one thing I have learned from this is; Oxpho-Blue doesn't stink

Matt Williams V.P.
Williams Firearms Company Inc.

OOP's Matt, the "Master Moderator" has said it stinks.

That's why I assumed he'd mistaken Oxpho for Dicropan.....I've haven't smelled the no-smeller Oxpho yet, but I'll testify to the neverending smell of Dicropan.

As you can see....it kinda got blew out of proportion to say the least.

Stink is a little subjective.

I think petrochemical based finish on gun stocks stinks.

I often get handed a beautiful example of gunsmithing. If I shoulder the rifle and touch the stock to my face, I am soon looking for a way to wash the stink off my face.

Cold Blue does not seem to stink to me. Oxpho OR Dicropan

Fiberglass boat cabins stink, forever.
How some people will make payments on something that smells that bad seems odd to me.

Diesel exhaust stinks to me. I have never bought a car, truck, boat, or tractor that makes that oder.

My wife thinks that I stink

If I get Sulphured cutting oil on me from cutting a chamber, she stays about 5 feet further away than usual.

quote:

Originally posted by GrandView:
The thread has been pretty entertaining. Almost feel bad about getting it back on topic.

Anyone have any familiarity with Van's Instant Gun Blue?

Ahh hell, let 'em have their fun. Got a touch of cabin fever myself... ;=]

Not familiar w/ Van's. Any good?

please note, I am POINTING OUT the signifcant portions of the pictures of course, FYJ and jimmy will now rant about other random, irrational, unrelated BS, but that's just the way they are

this will be a little like X-files.. pictures of the non-existent!! From a full grown, adult man, i would expect a full appology. after he sees this pictures... of course, I won't get one, as neither FYJ or Jimmy have the stones to state he's made a mistake.

so, in order to clear up a few things, and to make certain the pictures had indicative markers to show that they aren't "borrowed", i thought I would post a couple pictures of several "non-existent" or "no experience with" items.


well,
I gotta say, I am a little tired of being accused of being a liar (and worse) by a no account, never-posted-a-post-about-his-projects, can't be convinced - even when the importer tells him the truth, newbie.


#1 a NECG RUGER peep sight, that I knocked the sharp corners off and didn't get around to bluing (the weather here has SUCKED for a month)

btw, it RATTLES (like every other NECG ruger sight) when you loosen the apature... and if you pull UP on it, it moves at least .025, without the apature tightened... just like every other RUGER NECG sight.



#2 - here's a high level pic of a couple cold and rust blue containers that I have used over the years..that i have "no experience" with.... the oxpho is probably 2 years old, and is the newest... I couldn't find a BC blue... must have run out and not bothered to replace that stinky crap

old toothbrush that didn't get thrown away last time I had these out... oh well



#3 - perhaps a better view of the bluing agents


#4 bluing and ruger sight in the same picture



#5 "non-existent" crown .. as presented in the first post about it, as done by huntingcat. that someone was so new that they missed that reference and picked a squabble over it speaks VOLUMES for their true character


#6 close up of the same - sorry it's blurry, but anyone that can read this post can see it's internally RADIUSED with a "non-existent" tool... (yet I posted links to simular tools available from VALENITE.. but FYJ says V doesn't make small radius tools)




#7, oh, a picture of a group shot by this AB barrel, with the non-existent crown, in 416 AR ... shooting 400gr as about 2500FPS
(yes, it's really 3 shots, FYJ)


in retrospect, perhaps "pointing out" portions of the pictures was overkill.


Now, I would like to see some pictures of FYJ's comments... perhaps a picture of him at his board of directors meeting, and some of his work...

after all, i have a WEBSITE full of pictures showing my stuff...


could someone please, now, tell me what "acpected" means?

tnekkcc-

In general, I enjoy your posts.

You're a little opinionated--well, a lot opinionated--but I respect your knowledge of firearms.

But I am here to tell you... that if you're on saltwater in smallcraft... Diesel Rules.

Think about it.

Reduced risk of fire, and... no vulnerable ignition system.

Diesel is perfect for boats.

I've spent enough time on nasty water that Diesel smells really sweet to me.

LOL.

flaco

(Sheesh, and I've been trying desperately to avoid this thread!

Yep, and I like FRP boats too. Short of aluminum, plastic just works.)

Does there exist somewhere......an option to moderate the moderator?

Sheesh.....

GV

GV, Flaco,
you are right.. that was over the top. revised

My Vote goes to Brownell's T-4 Creme "Dichropan". I have Oxpho Blue too...but I'll tell you why I like the T-4.
It blends better & gives a more uniform color than Oxpho. Just apply it with 0000 steel wool lightly...don't rub
too hard as it will give a bluer color...after a few coats it takes well...then wipe off with paper towels...and
oil it well. Now, I've used Oxpho Blue too...its perhaps stronger, but also more "touchy" to apply...it is so
strong that it can easily cause an uneven color. I've done tons of bluing jobs over many years...and now will
only bother with the T-4. I have also done this, which seemed to work well...use the T-4 and build up the color
nicely...then as a "final" treatment, go over it lightly with the Oxpho blue...wipe & oil. It seems the Oxpho
final coat seemed to 'set" the bluing & make it a tough finish.
Just my experience, but if I had to do a cold blueing job, I'd use the T-4 without any hestitation. It works, and
works well.
Aloha,
Tom

I used to be on a kick that Dicropan was darker, but Oxpho lasted longer, so I would put Dicropan on first and get it down in the micro valleys, and then run Oxpho on the micro ridges.

That trick makes dark and longlasting cold blue, but it only works on steels that take both cold blues well.

If you can find this stuff, get some, and you will broaden what you can do besides Oxpho and Dicropan.



And try experimenting with applying with Q-tips vs applying with gray Scotch Brite pad at 50 psi.

I'm sold on the 2 part approach, I first use oxpho blue and then use T4 over that. It give a nice looking and durable finish.

And I gotta laugh with all this talk about stink. I started this thread with an open can of sardines that I polished off, my wife comes in the room and while I'm reading she says "What's that stink?" She wouldn't understand but it gave me a chuckle.

In regards to preparation, it is poor form to not meticulously degrease everything regardless of what the instructions say. If the directions say the blue can be applied over oil and you do, and it comes out slightly mottled in spots then whose fault is that?

This is a Savage that I put a brake on and a Pachmayr 990 recoil pad.


I silver soldered them together, and used the 2 step bluing method to finish the brake and blend it with the barrel.

quote:

Originally posted by Mark:


And I gotta laugh with all this talk about stink. I started this thread with an open can of sardines that I polished off, my wife comes in the room and while I'm reading she says "What's that stink?" She wouldn't understand but it gave me a chuckle.

.

My wife acts like my empty sardine cans are toxic waste, and cannot be put in the trash under the sink. They must be washed out and carried out to the garbage can.

I sent my son to college with a supply of canned kippered snacks [smoked herring]. His room mates complain that it stinks. I tell him to beat up his room mates.

quote:

Originally posted by jimmyd223:
jeffe' I assure you, when the word "BUBBA" comes up on this forum, it fits you and your "custom work" much better than most here.

How's this grab you for Bubba?

It's a 1/4-20 bolt put on the cut off bolt handle root of a Turk. Not mine.

quote:

Originally posted by Lar45:
It's a 1/4-20 bolt put on the cut off bolt handle root of a Turk.

Gonna cold blue the shaft of that handle?

GV

quote:

Originally posted by malm:

quote:

Originally posted by tin can:

quote:

and there is nothing that is 30 years old that doesn't stink

malm, I'm 53, and if my memory serves me, I can think of at least one thing thirty years old that doesn't...

Think "Tuna".

I was told that once you get past the smell, you have it licked!

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
Unlike you and our moderator, I don’t comment on subjects or products that I don’t have personal experience with.
. . . I have a life thank you, and my daddy didn’t have to set me up in business so I could pretend to be somebody.

FYJ

quote:

Originally posted by GrandView:

quote:

Originally posted by Lar45:
It's a 1/4-20 bolt put on the cut off bolt handle root of a Turk.

Gonna cold blue the shaft of that handle?

GV

That, and I think the knob would look a lot better with a bit of checkering or some tasteful scrimshaw.

Glenn,
i just threwup in my coffee cup.. g, thanks...

and I didn't think ANYTHING could look worse than a g8 1/4-20 with a blob of JB weld on it....

Lars, I own a gaggle of Turks.

If you want to gross me out, you will have to tell me that the antler is one of yours.

quote:

t's a 1/4-20 bolt put on the cut off bolt handle root of a Turk. Not mine.

the guy wouldn't sell, huh? ...heartbreaker.

i asume the rifle is being shot due to the safety and scope/mounts- what about that burned metal at the bolt root?

To make that gun really classy someone needs to scrimshaw a deer head on the end of that bolt knob.

Good Cold Blue, now that is an Oximoron if I have ever heard one.

Rustystud

quote:

Originally posted by Mark:
To make that gun really classy someone needs to scrimshaw a deer head on the end of that bolt knob.

Heck with the scrimshaw, just screw the whole head on and be done with it. Now that would be bubbafied.