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27 September 2007, 01:23
Bill SovernsReference???
Since you closed the topic Jeffe....
to set the record straight, rem721 constawntly brings malm, bill, and chic as inferences, then ridicules everyone....
If "bill" is me then Rem721 should not be using me for a reference for anything. I dont even know who he is.
27 September 2007, 02:45
rem721Mr Soverns,
I don't believe I've ever used you as a reference. In fact, I don't think I've even referred to you.
I have referred to Chic and Malm and maybe a couple of others whose work I find to be very good. For the record, I find Duane Wiebe's, Jim Dubell's, SDH's, and a couple of others' work to also be excellent. I don't know any of them either but I do know top notch work when I see it.
You should actually read a post before you respond like your buddies told you to.
27 September 2007, 03:01
Bill SovernsSo should you.
I said "IF".
27 September 2007, 03:13
rem721Well, to take it a step further, I don't think I ever referred to a Bill which you claim I "constantly" refer to.
27 September 2007, 03:20
Bill SovernsFor cryin out loud....I was quoting Jeffe in from the thread he closed, IF YOU WILL NOTICE!!!!
quote:
Since you closed the topic Jeffe....
What does that say??? EH? Thats it, Ive had it. Good luck to all. Im out.
27 September 2007, 04:40
22WRF721
How do you know good work when you see it?
27 September 2007, 05:10
vapodog
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27 September 2007, 05:11
rem721Jeez,
You guys just won't quit will ya? And then when you're wrong you just jet outta here.
Well Bill, before you go casting stones you ought to be sure what you're talking about. You should know better than to
trust quote jeff.
27 September 2007, 05:47
Bill SovernsThat is precisely why I created the second post. I've been on this site for 6 years. Im done because of the crap that goes on around here on almost a daily basis.
Goodbye, good luck, good ridance.
27 September 2007, 07:25
gunmakerrem721
Bill was quoting what jeffe posted at the top of this thread.
27 September 2007, 07:30
tiggertatequote:
Originally posted by vapodog:

"Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson.
27 September 2007, 08:06
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
Im done because of the crap that goes on around here on almost a daily basis.
Bill,
May I be the first to request you reconsider on this.
You're one very talanted guy and a fine poster and we need folks like you.
Just put the folks that offend you on ignore and carry on.
Vapo
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27 September 2007, 08:10
ramrod340quote:
Bill,
May I be the first to request you reconsider on this.
You're one very talanted guy and a fine poster and we need folks like you.
Just put the folks that offend you on ignore and carry on.
I second that. Once I started using the ignore my blood pressure lowered.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
27 September 2007, 08:19
ElCaballeroquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
Im done because of the crap that goes on around here on almost a daily basis.
Bill,
May I be the first to request you reconsider on this.
You're one very talanted guy and a fine poster and we need folks like you.
Just put the folks that offend you on ignore and carry on.
Vapo
Yep, another good one gets run off!
27 September 2007, 08:24
JKSAgree with vapodog and ramrod340! I for one appreciate all the talented and experienced people who post here on AR. There are also posers, trolls and AHs that dwell here and it is up to the reader to determine who is the "real deal" and those sporting a BS degree...fortunately the

reveal themselves pretty quick.
Bill,
Just put those posters that continue to

on ignore and continue to treat us with your work.
John
There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
27 September 2007, 09:07
rem721Wow, amazing. Having a bad day, need a pick me up, some validation? Then just make up a story that you were picked on or just mentioned and then threaten to leave.

Bill, you won't leave because if you did, you'd have to pay for advertising.

27 September 2007, 11:40
duikermanquote:
Originally posted by rem721:
Wow, amazing. Having a bad day, need a pick me up, some validation? Then just make up a story that you were picked on or just mentioned and then threaten to leave.

Bill, you won't leave because if you did, you'd have to pay for advertising.

This is about what we come to expect of you
27 September 2007, 12:00
333_OKHquote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
That is precisely why I created the second post. I've been on this site for 6 years. Im done because of the crap that goes on around here on almost a daily basis.
Goodbye, good luck, good ridance.
I have only been on here a couple of years, and I joined to get information for my custom rifle [which I did], but I am amazed at the freedom to be unprofessional and even uncivilized just because we are on the Internet, and if you say this is how you normally act, then I take back my statement about California being full of a$$holes, there are a lot of other states listed under "Location:" that are full of them too!
Bill--Sorry to see you go. You gave me great advice in the past and I appreciated it even though I did not have you do any work for me.
Unfortunately there have been about a dozen excellent gunmakers that once posted here that are now gone in the short period I have been registered. Until you can do better you probably shouldn’t critic others work?
I am an advocate of the ignore feature!
27 September 2007, 16:48
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
That is precisely why I created the second post. I've been on this site for 6 years. Im done because of the crap that goes on around here on almost a daily basis.
Goodbye, good luck, good ridance.
Bill
Sorry if i took your name in vain, it was because when I think of Great gunsmiths, your name is a natural to lump with chic's.
27 September 2007, 16:59
flacoHoping you'll choose to hang around, Bill.
flaco
27 September 2007, 21:44
TC1What a shame. This place just isn't what it use to be. I have learned so much here. I still hang around, but feel less compelled to participate all the time.
I don't know a whole lot about building guns, but have always' been interested in it. It would seem there are a lot more of these people (like me) are here now with the exception being they will try to convince you they do know what they're doing even though they obviously don't. Another thing that I've seen a lot more of lately that really bother's me is a "pile on" mentality. You see it on a lot of other forums, but not much here in the past. When you see it you can rest assured the people doing it aren't thinking for themselves.
Bill, I hate to see you go, but if you do I certainly understand why.
Terry
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28 September 2007, 01:48
Don Markeyquote:
Originally posted by flaco:
Hoping you'll choose to hang around, Bill.
flaco
Me too. Use the ignore feature it it will releive alot of stress and you might actually enjoy the site again. If not thanks for all the posts in the past.
-Don
28 September 2007, 03:44
Bill SovernsWell.....
My neighbor put it too me straight...which I do appreciate. Told me I was "pussin out". So Im staying and hello ignore button.
28 September 2007, 03:58
ramrod340quote:
My neighbor put it too me straight...which I do appreciate. Told me I was "pussin out". So Im staying and hello ignore button.

As usual just my $.02
Paul K
28 September 2007, 04:03
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28 September 2007, 04:58
olcripquote:
Originally posted by ElCaballero:
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
Im done because of the crap that goes on around here on almost a daily basis.
Bill,
May I be the first to request you reconsider on this.
You're one very talanted guy and a fine poster and we need folks like you.
Just put the folks that offend you on ignore and carry on.
Vapo
Yep, another good one gets run off!
Bill,

I'm another one that wishes you would reconsider. I have learned so much from good people like you and would be very sorry to loose your kind of talent on this forum. We all loose. As you can tell your appreciated more than you realize.

Olcrip,
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28 September 2007, 06:31
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
Well.....
My neighbor put it too me straight...which I do appreciate. Told me I was "pussin out". So Im staying and hello ignore button.
Glad you reconsidered and looking forward to you sharing your knowledge and expertise.
28 September 2007, 08:04
577NitroExpressquote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
Well.....
My neighbor put it too me straight...which I do appreciate. Told me I was "pussin out". So Im staying and hello ignore button.
Good choice, Billy. There are a lot of guys out there with internet balls...
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If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... 28 September 2007, 09:20
JKSThanks for staying on AR, Bill!
Seriously, the "ignore" feature is a good one...why get worked up from a post from a troll or wannabe? There are a lot of good folks here but sometimes you need to sort the wheat from the chaff. I have learned a LOT from AR and continue to do so.
John
There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!