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A friend just acquired this rifle and we are trying to figure out how the scope adjustments work . . . anyone here have the answer? Thanks so much.




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is this is a joke, right? doesn't look like front base is leveraged in -- but might be one of those long reach jobbies

elevation on the turret, windage in the rear base screws?


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I'm still trying to sort out the significance of the two $1 dollar bills, tootsie roll, reading glasses, container of pepper, rubber band, crumpled tissues, fly swatter and is that a Heddon fishing lure?


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If memory serves;
It looks like a 1930s Kahles scope. The windage is set on the rear rings. Elevation on the knob on top. That little plate with the screw on it should be the cross wire erector. It allows you to turn the cross hairs from side to side about 10 degrees either way to get the cross hairs straight up and down to the bore.

I would be willing to bet that it fogs when it's frozen and has the light gathering capabilities of a toilet paper roll. It would be an excellent scope for elephant hunting in Arizona.


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
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Yes, speerchucker's summation sounds about right to me. And if you have undone the set screw and the knob still doesn't move, that doesn't surprise me, either.

I have a number of old scopes (Swaros, Hensoldt, S&B) that have frozen in the adjustments, perhaps because they were so stable no one ever had to shift them.
 
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Yes, speerchucker's summation sounds about right to me. And if you have undone the set screw and the knob still doesn't move, that doesn't surprise me, either.

I have a number of old scopes (Swaros, Hensoldt, S&B) that have frozen in the adjustments, perhaps because they were so stable no one ever had to shift them.


+1 What sambarman338 said !

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Those old scopes were often lined with some form of Zimbabwe death grease to seal them and trap dirt. After the dinosaurs disappeared those old scopes got shelved for 65 million years and the grease turned to concrete and the adjustments will no longer move. DON'T PUT PLIERS ON THEM AND TRY TO FORCE THEM. There are a couple people in the USA that you can send them to and have them reconditioned. I thing Duane mentioned one such feller back in a previous post who specializes in those things.


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
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I have noticed that grease, Rod, and it can even cause those little screws to shear off if you try to move them.

I like the Nickel, Marburg scopes because all but possibly the very earliest had click adjustments. Maybe Nickels were slightly less waterproof than others but I've never had one seize up.
 
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I mentioned to Mike in another thread that I just gave Lee LeBas 111 a scope exactly like that. It has a post reticle. Rod, maybe the rear sliding thing may tilt the reticle post? The optics on mine were excellent! I'm sure the horizontal "windage" was adjusted by the scope bases.
 
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Yeah, they were good scopes in their day Butch. I've had several of the old K.Kahles/Vienna scopes over the years. I believe that little saddle plate with the screw, near the eye piece is the fine adjustment to get the cross wires straight up and down after soldering the rings on and mounting it to the gun. You just loosened the screw and turn it from side to side until you got them where you wanted them. They were about as clear as the old steel, Weaver K4s of my day. They don't compare to the stuff of today, but for a 100 year old piece of technology they are not that bad.


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
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The best adjustment in this case would be a Leupold 4X or such! BTW the lockup on that old scope was bent by some Kraut in years past. lol


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and is that a Heddon fishing lure?


i think that's a business card or postcard. Big Grin


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I think it's make is a "Tell". But in any case they are all much the same working.

If so the adjustment for the focus is on that rear trapdoor. Loosen the screw and turn it left to right.

The major adjustment for windage is off the two screws on the rear base mount.
 
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