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Largest Caliber/Cartridge on a Martini Cadet
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What is the largest cartridge/caliber that can be put in Martini Cadet?


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Largest I've seen is 32 WinSpl.
 
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Yes,in the 60's Century did a run of re-chambering in 32 Win Spcial

i have seen some in 22 Hornet, 38/357,32-20, 25-35 and one 45 Long Colt conversion-
 
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you're limited by both accessibility and barrrel diameter. the cadet barrel is only about 7/8 diameter so fat rounds are pretty well out. then if you scope it, the distance between the scope and the loading port is really limited biggest round i have made is a 219 wasp the 30/30 rim is max to load/unload. action is very strong but is really size limited
 
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I dont know beans about these. Complete lack of knowledge on my part. I wonder if the 308 marlin or 307 .. or a 356 win would .... heck 375 win or 3855...

If those can't eject what about a 308 br rimmed based off the 307?


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You will find out what they will take pressure-wise when the case ( no matter what it is) doesn't want to extract. That is the weak link in the cadet. With a 30-30 case head, you have to hold the lever down, not just pop it open, to extract or chamber a round. I have them in 7x30 waters, 225 win on a 30-30 case and both are as large as I would go. I have one in 357 Max, the loading trough had to be lengthened to load/extract because of it being such a straight case. 22 jet, 218 bee, 25/20, 256 win are all good cartridges for a cadet, and I have or had them all at one time or other.
 
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Barrel wall thickness at the chamber is the limiting factor. I would not go larger diameter than .358. I had a 32 Special that shot well with factory .321 bullets in the original barrel.


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In the 1980's, the Australian Shooters Journal included an article series based on rechambered/rebarreled Cadet rifles. The longest cartridge used was the 5.6x50 Rimmed.
 
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Biggest has been covered.

If it is an unaltered rifle the best thing is to leave it alone....imho. They are extremely accurate as made. They were made to a standard of fit and finish that is not available today on factory made guns. The brass, bullets and dies can be bought. It is a fun an accurate caliber.

Sporterizing old rifles is no longer a good idea. It is like making hot rods out of historic cars. You spend a lot of money to decimate the monetary and historic value. Every time somebody modify s a collectable gun the remaining ones increase in value. Leave it alone and watch the value increase.
 
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