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Okay so I am not real good at anything that requires "touch"...Is there a fool proof bedding material that comes with fool proof instrcutions...

You know rifle bedding for dummies...
 
Posts: 10164 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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instructions with Acraglas are pretty good, can't say it fool proof, but if you follow the instructions you will be fine.


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i'm with billy...

hell mike, call me and i'll walk you through it...

here's some really good tips
1: get a large horse syringe with no needle
2: get a package of popsicle sticks
3: get the brownell's spray release
4: use painters tape to tape off MOST of the stock
5: plumbers putty for filling holes
6: surgical tubing helps to pull it down
7: the syes can NEVER match the wood.. get the inletting pretty damn close
8: take it out of the wood after 6 hours.. trust me
9: go to radio shack and get some plastic screw drivers.. usually used on TVs... these WILL NOT scratch your bluing...
10 VINIGER.. .use ONLY on unblued gun

Last, but not least

it's a ZILLION times easier to get the crap off while it's soft

jeffe


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Ok jeff,

when I return from Patagonia...I will give u a call


Mike

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Posts: 10164 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Hello,
Let me suggest that you consider MarineTex available at most marine supply shops for a bedding material for firearms. Sure there are others out there, but this material works for any kind of weather and is extremely strong and can in fact machine it once it cures. Not any more difficlt to use than other bedding materials, but will not soften with age and impervious to oils, solvents, etc. Just a suggestion.
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Posts: 1165 | Location: Banks of Kanawha, forks of Beaver Dam and Spring Creek | Registered: 06 January 2005Reply With Quote
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I use Marine Tex also, but for a beginner I would highly recommend Brownells Acraglas GEL....


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Posts: 42213 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I think the material is less important than making sure you don't have any bedding material going where you don't want it to. Avoid mechanical locks, be sure to use plenty of release agent and tape where you'll get oozing. Don't tighten up the screws real tight either. I usually don't use them and use surgical tubing to snug the action into the stock. Whatever you use just make sure it's thick, the original acraglass is thin and a real pain. I'd just grab a acraglass gel kit, read the directions and go for it.


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Posts: 6205 | Location: Cascade, MT | Registered: 12 February 2002Reply With Quote
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dsiteman-

Acraglas does all that and it add tremendous strength to the stock.
It also does not shrink or expand although neither does MarineTex I think.

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I agree with Jeffe on everything but the plumbers putty, it works but modeling clay is better in my opinion.

I think the only reason Jeffe uses Plumbers putty is he is cheap Big Grin


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Posts: 1868 | Location: League City, Texas | Registered: 11 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Go to www.probed2000.com and ask for his free CD. It walks you through the procedure with a powerpoint presentation. And the Probed epoxy and pillars are the best I have ever used.
 
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High Score bedding from Midwayusa.com is absolutely the most fool proof and best bedding compound I've ever worked with. The kit includes everything. Along with more mixing sticks, brush for appling release agent, putty for filling any hole before the bed job and a much superior/more workable release agent IMHO.
 
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I use to use marinetex, first on boats and then on guns for bedding. The forumula has changed considerably and it has a filler in it now and is not near the strength that it was in the past. It is basically a lot more brittle than previously (less tensile strength) but it still may do for bedding purposes.

Most of the good products are basically a two part epoxy. They can hype you with Aluminum, steel and titanium powders added but they only give the produce a color. If the additives are a metal powder then they can not add to the tensile strength of the epxoy when it is set up.


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Im suprized noone else has tryed this PC Woody epoxy I found at hardware stores. Strong stuff, you can drill and tap it too.
 
Posts: 4821 | Location: Idaho/North Mex. | Registered: 12 June 2002Reply With Quote
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I like the regular Acraglass but I cant stand the gel verion. Microbed is what I use around here when I want a gel type bedding compound.
 
Posts: 1268 | Location: Newell, SD, USA | Registered: 07 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
I like the regular Acraglass but I cant stand the gel verion. Microbed is what I use around here when I want a gel type bedding compound.


10-4 to that. I think Microbed is the easiest of all for a beginner to work with. Not as runny as Acraglass, and much less likely to give "air bubbles" for some reason unknown to me. A straight 1-to-1 ratio by volume, so is easy to mix correctly.

Be sure to cut excess off with a razor blade or similar tool when it sets to the consistency of a flexible plastic, whatever you use. That way it no longer runs, but you don't have something so hard you have to grind it off like a lot of fully set products are...

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I have used Devcon Aluminum for three or four guns now, and I like it better than Accraglas gel by a long shot. It's more of a putty consistency, and that makes it easier to use the "right amount".

There was a reference on the Net a couple of years back on shrink, and the Devcon came out among the top two or three for dimensional stability before and after drying. In our application, a couple of thou shrink can have a pretty dramatic effect. FWIW, Dutch.


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Posts: 4564 | Location: Idaho Falls, ID, USA | Registered: 21 September 2000Reply With Quote
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My old departed friend Ray Price always used Microbed and also did not like Acraglass gel so Bill is in good company. The other thing I have seen Ray do when he was changing a pattern for his duplactor was to use heat to remove it. He would hit the barrel channel with a propane bottle torch and it would come out like putty with a scraper. I have never tried this with acraglass but I need to sometime to see if it is just an attribute of Microbed.


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Posts: 4917 | Location: Wenatchee, WA, USA | Registered: 17 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Found the reference I mentioned:

http://yarchive.net/gun/rifle/bedding.html

Dutch.


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