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I am in no way an authority on Mauser actions but I'll go out on a limb and say its a poorly altered military action.

I have a rule that I will never shoot any of these actions with a European style scope mount dovetailed into the front ring. They cut away two thirds of the support of the upper locking lug.

well, it's not as bad as it seems... and it could be worse than we think it is

this has a"Built up" front clawmount... like mini-squarebridge.. the hooks aren't cut into the front ring, the bases are mounted there..

as for the type of action, the receiver itself MIGHT be commerical, but everything else is pure milsurp or add-ons

there's not pics of the REAR mount, which should be a push button affair...

so, all in all, it's about a 50$ "here's a place to start" action.. that you would be a practice gun on..

i am certain this is someone's first efforts, and about 10 actions down the way looks much better

jeffe

Jeffe, it looks to me like the front mount was dovetailed into the front ring. That was a common way to do it. I have heard some say that it screws up the action for a high pressure round.

Nonetheless (is that one word or 3?) at that price it is no bargain.

The ends of the mount being wider than middle it would seem impossible to do a dove tail?

Holy Cheewowah!!! It's one of those actions that some genius Kraut gunsmith has dovetailed a scope mount block through the top of the receiver ring! This destroys the integrity of the receiver ring, and renders it unfit for any centerfire load! In addition, since it has been "engraved", perchance by the same idiot who cut the dovetail through the receiver ring, it may have been ANNEALED to make it easier to engrave (you can't engrave through case-hardening!!).

You have actually bid $155.00 for this action-which hasn't even had the bolt handle altered for a scope??

IMO, this action is a potential hand grendade, waiting to happen!

Caballero, let someone else have this action!

Dempsey, you are seeing something that I am not. If you look at the front and the back views they appear to be planes that have a constant taper. It is wider at the bottom of the round channel because it is lower on the taper.

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It is wider at the bottom of the round channel because it is lower on the taper.

Ok, I see what you mean now.

It's not clear to me that it's dovetailed....if it is it's a candidate for the scrap heap.

I do agree however that it's not $150 worth of metal. I sold a 1909 argie for $150 the other day.

The base is in the shape of a dovetail, and so is the cut in the receiver ring. You have to view it from the side in order to see it clearly.

I don't agree with this method, as it is better to solder a saddle on top of the ring, and then cut the dovetail into the saddle. However, I do not believe this method to really degrade the strength of the action if it was made using modern steel (post 1924 Czech or German). I would be very cautious of such actions if they are of the WWI era case-hardened variety.

This particular action is curious because the bottom metal appears to lack locking screws. It could be commercial, or one the few military actions that did not use locking screws (or just the bottom metal could be from such an action). The bolt handle does not appear to be commercial Oberndorf, it definitely has the military curve.

Bottom line: It looks like a typical military sporter worth about a tank of gasoline (9/03/05), without the proper scope rings fitted to the claw mounts. Additional pics or information would be needed to proove otherwise.

It looks dovetailed to me, also though I disagree that it or the engraving mean a ruined action. Compromised, maybe but not ruined. The world is full of functional engraved receivers and a moderate pressure round would pass proof in a rifle built on that receiver.

KurtC beat me to the main problem; it's totally worthless without the rings and matching rear base.

Well I guess I'll get a 150 commercial bottom metal and milsurp bolt and trigger. Oh well I have wasted more on less. I do usually learn from these deals though and that is worth something. Gave you guys something to talk about.

it's always wise to look before you leap.

I would pass, I don't like the scope mounts in the reciever. For that price I can get a much better action, VZ-24, a 1909, even a Persian, about the same amount of work before its a firle, and these are known qualities.

Without an positive ID of origin, which the photos have no detail I would keep looking. He should have taken photo's of the proof marks at least.