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Halfmoon handles, which do you like?
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I got these from Jim yesterday. The one on the left is an Ordendorf style. The one one the right is ....ummmm, not sure.

The action is a Husky 1640. It'll have a #1 contour barrel on it. It'll be chambered in a .270WIN.

This will probably be the last custom I do for a long time so I don't need both. He said pick the one I want and send the other one and some money back. I'm leaning towards the Orbendorf, but what do you guy's think?

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the one on the right. If this is going to be a fairly light sporter, then you don't want a big ol' honkin' handle that would fit a stopping rifle. Always look for balance of pieces. Every part needs to work in harmony with the others to have the proper artistic balance of the whole.
 
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I vote for the smaller.


As usual just my $.02
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I've had both the "small" and "large" in hand as well and it made me want a "medium" version. The small is just too small for my taste, but I might use it on a very light, trim rifle. Lobby Jim for a "medium" version - it'll help everyone out.


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I think there is a medium version. Jim sent this with the handles. I think I have C and E. He said nobody liked E except him Big Grin I told him to send it on, if he liked it I wanted to see it.


Marc and Paul, I do see your point about it being big. Does this one look out of place though? It's big too and the rifle is petite.




I dunno, just trying to figure this out.

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Marc and Paul, I do see your point about it being big

Terry don't base to much on my opinion. Heck 75% of mine have the factory MKX swept handle.

ForrestB and many other probably have a better eye than I do. For my taste the one on the rifle is just a touch large. If between the first two is an option I would vote for that. I agree with ForrestB the right is a touch small but for me the left was way to big.


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Terry,

I have two of his Oberndorf handles and they aren't apprecibly bigger than a Talley. They just look soooo much nicer. I wouldn't hesitate to use the Oberndorf. It seems to fit in with your tastes overall.

I think that handle "E" is just a small handle, similar to what Midway sold at one time. Too small for my tastes but it ain't my rifle. Go with what pleases you the most.




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Terry-

Ditto what Z1R said Smiler. I purchased three of the Oberndorf handles from Jim for various projects.

To me they look so much like Tom Burgess' handles that I don't think you could go wrong using the larger handle.


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Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've had both the "small" and "large" in hand as well and it made me want a "medium" version. The small is just too small for my taste, but I might use it on a very light, trim rifle. Lobby Jim for a "medium" version - it'll help everyone out.


Just out of curiosity, who is "JIM"?


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I like Jim's handles (and his rust blue too) but I think that he makes the shaft too thin where it meets the root or stub (whatever you want to call it) on the bolt itself. If you compare it to one of Tom Burgess's handles you would see that Tom's are just a bit thicker.
 
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ditto on 22wrf statement about Tom's being thicker. much better
 
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I'd go for the one to the left, but ask him to trim it down over all a bit. I just don't like the shape of the ball on the little one, on a gun like this.


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I had a real problem, early in my carreer, with making handles too small. A handle which looked pretty nice when the bolt was by itself, was to petit when installed in the receiver and even more so when the rifle was complete. I recently made up a bunch of Oberndorf style handles when I had access to a cnc lathe and left them a little bit fat. I can always dress them down a bit before installation if the rifle is to be a very slim one. I really admire a well finished handle and am seldom happy with mine. Ralph Martini does an excellent handle. Actually he bought a bunch of mine but they look better to me when he finishes them. Kind of depressing really. Regards, Bill.
 
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I had a real problem, early in my carreer, with making handles too small. A handle which looked pretty nice when the bolt was by itself, was to petit when installed in the receiver and even more so when the rifle was complete. I recently made up a bunch of Oberndorf style handles when I had access to a cnc lathe and left them a little bit fat. I can always dress them down a bit before installation if the rifle is to be a very slim one. I really admire a well finished handle and am seldom happy with mine. Ralph Martini does an excellent handle. Actually he bought a bunch of mine but they look better to me when he finishes them. Kind of depressing really. Regards, Bill.

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As I recall, you are a pretty good photographer. Lets see a photo of one of yours.


To me, the ultimate style is the David Miller style, which has been posted here before, but I will post a photo again for those that didn't see it the last time it was posted.
 
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Terry, I like "B" the best. Of the 2 pictured at the top, I'd choose the larger and shorten the stem.


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I like the knob shape of E, the length of C, but the shanks should all be thinner.
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I have a few 'E' type handles from Jim's shop... but after seeing that picture of all the bolts lined up I think I like 'B' and particularly 'C' better.

As to the thicker shaft... I agree a little thicker would give a bit better flow I think. Smiler

Thanks for posting that pic TC1. Jim's catalog only has 2 bolt handles pictured and the side by side compairison helps alot!

Anyone have pics of a Burgess handle that could be posted for comparison?

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I have a "C" here in front of me as well as a Burgess handle on my CZ550 Safari. They are so similar that the casual observer probably couldn't tell them apart. The Burgess handle is slightly less flat on the bottom of the ball. Thickness, & length are damn near identical.

Of course, the real key is to have them properly installed by someone who knows what they are doing.




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quote: DavidC: Anyone have pics of a Burgess handle that could be posted for comparison?







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Forrest,

Thanks for taking the time to post the pics.

Beautiful work all of them. The mauser action is particularly eye catching and that bolt handle is top shelf.

Aside from shape & style of the bolt handles it is interesting to note where they 'hang' in relation to the trigger & shooters hand.

Thanks again.
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David, since the 09 Peruvian is going to be an open sight sporter, I asked Mr. Burgess to replicate the bolt handle of an original Oberndorf sporter, which he did to perfection as is shown in the first photo. For a scope sighted rifle, something recessed like on the CZ550 or 22WRF's picture retains the classic straight stem Oberndorf tear drop shape but will clear a scope eyepiece.


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I'm giving you fair warning that I will steal that Peruvian at the first opportunity. It is just beautiful. You might want to chain it to your wrist when I'm around.


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Bill,
As I recall, you are a pretty good photographer. Lets see a photo of one of yours.


To me, the ultimate style is the David Miller style, which has been posted here before, but I will post a photo again for those that didn't see it the last time it was posted.
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Actually, while I can take a reasonably good picture of a sleeping dog etc., I would hardly be called a "good photographer". On top of that, I never have posted a picture on a forum. I'll figure it out someday. Regards, Bill.
 
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