I purchased this commercial mauser at the local pawn shop. I got it cheap and it needs some tlc, but I'm wondering who made it. I'm guessing it's a Santa Barbara but I don't know for sure. Quality seems to be as good as any.





3 digit SN.

Most Santa Barbaras had SPAIN stamped on the left side of the tang. Take it out of the shock & have a look.

It's a Santa Barbara.

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Originally posted by z1r:
It's a Santa Barbara.

or parker hale built on one

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by z1r:
It's a Santa Barbara.

or parker hale built on one

That would still make it a Santa Barbara action, right?

Edit: I read the original post as asking about the action. Yes, it could be a PH built on an SB action. Probably is even.

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Most Santa Barbaras had SPAIN stamped on the left side of the tang. Take it out of the shock & have a look.

No Spain stamp.

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That would still make it a Santa Barbara action, right?

Edit: I read the original post as asking about the action. Yes, it could be a PH built on an SB action. Probably is even.

I agree with both you guys. Does look like a SB. From the pictures doesn't looke to have the typical PH stock.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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That would still make it a Santa Barbara action, right?

Edit: I read the original post as asking about the action. Yes, it could be a PH built on an SB action. Probably is even.

I agree with both you guys. Does look like a SB. From the pictures doesn't looke to have the typical PH stock.

Yeah, they don't all have the SPAIN stamped on them. Pretty easy to tell who made the receiver though.

That's not a Santa barbara

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That's not a Santa barbara

Soooooo don't keep us waiting. What is it?

Possibly... a Herters XKS or J9, Boltknob, Serial # "Y" prefix and safety leaver look like the photos ive found of a Herters

Take the stock off it...

Herters XKS


Santa barbaras have a "Z" serial prefix, bolt handle and safety lever dont look like Santa B. either


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Possibly... a Herters XKS or J9, Boltknob, Serial # "Y

As I understand it the XKS had that Browning style bolt release. I thought the J9 (at least the several I have seen) actually said "Made in Yugoslavia". As you said after a cold the safety doen't really look like a SB either.

So I give. and will leave it to the more knowledgeable.

Paul , I found some other pics of the herters and have both the browning style or box style bolt release. Different variants, some were yugo some germany too. Have enough maybe it will turn into a oberndorf

That's not the style on the thumb pad of any P-Hale Mauser that I am familiar with. They used first something that looks like TWO raised pips and at the very end a scalene triangle shape that looked sort of like a wedge of cheese!

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Have enough maybe it will turn into a oberndorf

But then the beer wears off.

Here's some more pics:

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Originally posted by z1r:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by z1r:
It's a Santa Barbara.

or parker hale built on one

That would still make it a Santa Barbara action, right?

Edit: I read the original post as asking about the action. Yes, it could be a PH built on an SB action. Probably is even.

thanks.. was agreeing with you, and further specifing.. not contradicting.. not all SBs are parkers.. and not all parkers are SB ..

The action sure looks like a Santa Barbra but the trigger and the safety do not look like anything Parker Hale used. SB sold actions to other companies as well as PH.

Herter's J9 was an intermediate-length action.
Regards, Joe

That safety is a new one on me! Got to admit though, it is far simpler and probably just as effective as any other trigger sear safety.

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Originally posted by lee440:
That safety is a new one on me! Got to admit though, it is far simpler and probably just as effective as any other trigger sear safety.

I'm gonna shamelessly rob the idea and use it for an upcoming build on a 1903 Springfield!

I go with the Santa Barbara, I have one with a N serial # prefix in .280 from Golden State Arms, Pasadena, Ca. Bolt style and shape are exact except the safety is different.

Herters Mark J9 was the 98 Mauser type first made in W.Germany then in Yugoslavia came in intermediate length foe 308's and standard length for .30/06 and Magnum .

E.N. Santa Barbara also put out a kit in the mid- late 70's with a 12 pg booklet on how to assemble your B/A and stock with chapters on stock fitting, bluing, finishing the stock, checkering, scope mounting and finally "preparation to fire".
Hope this helps
Bob

Hey Rub, anything written on the barrel underside thats covered by the stock?
Thats where my Golden State Arms is printed.

This is identical to one I had a long time ago that came to Hawaii from Herters and I think [?] the "Y" was a Yugoslavian action prefix so the thing could have been made for Herters by the pre- Mark 10 guys. The bolt handle on the one pictured is very different from S.B. but could have been changed of course. The one I saw was a 270 and barrel stamped Herters with the address. The safety was identical to the one pictured. I used this idea [stole it] on several old mausers and it worked real good.
Aloha, Mark

Bohica, or others, can you elaborate on how you made a similar safety. I am working on a 1903a3 project and would like a similarly located safety for ergonomics, and to keep the two stage trigger I prefer.
What did you make it out of? Is the safety lever just screwed on, are there washers, a ball and detents? Thanks.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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Possibly... a Herters XKS or J9, Boltknob, Serial # "Y

As I understand it the XKS had that Browning style bolt release. I thought the J9 (at least the several I have seen) actually said "Made in Yugoslavia". As you said after a cold the safety doen't really look like a SB either.

So I give. and will leave it to the more knowledgeable.

This is a photo of the VZ500 action I purchased several years ago. (1 of 2)



These where supposidly imported by Herters in the '60s.

They do indeed have "YUGOSLAVIA" stamped on the bottom of the reciever. They are "intermediate length" LR 98s similar to the M48 Yugo.



Perhaps these are the J9 actions you speak of, or @ least something similar.

Both of these actions had the Mark II safety on the shroud/cocking piece.

bja105,
i have a old doc-line safety in my parts collection for a springfield that you could use as a pattern to make your own.
it slides under the front of the sear as its pulled back.
http://img.photobucket.com/alb...s/doclinesafety1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...s/doclinesafety2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...s/doclinesafety3.jpg