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I was the successful bidder on a rifle (which I have yet to receive) at an auction. It has one cosmetic problem. At some point in the nearly 100 years of its existence, probably when the stock was separated from the barreled action, a sliver of wood was broken off from the edge of the barrel channel. Now I would like to know of anyone willing and able to undertake the repair.     The serial number puts it just below the beginning of a series of Typ A Mauser sporting rifles sold to Stoeger in New York in 1920, which leads me to believe that it was delivered to Stoeger also. It differs from the ordinary Typ A in that it is fitted with a half round, half octagon barrel, with full length integral rib and with a Lyman 35 receiver sight. The fore end tip is formed in a schnabel. The caliber is .30-'06 Springfield. Neither the seller, nor the other bidders, seemed to be aware of the identity of the rifle. | ||
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Xausa, I would get hold of Dennis Smith. http://www.thestockdr.com/index.php He is a member here as well. Jeremy | |||
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I would have to study the wood damage in person then fix it...Several ways, one would be to file a square notch find a color match and grain flow to match and carefully FIT that piece in the notch. sand every thing flush and refinish..Another option might be to use fine saw dust from the stock mix it with glass, fill in the damage, sand it to match touch it up with black mardks a lot for grain...Sometimes you have to start all over with such projects, the idea is hide the repair..If one damages a stock, save all the shattered parts, wrap the wound with cotton and cover it with tape so it can't splinter any more, the the parts can be glued back from whence they came and you can hide the damage 100% as a rule or get real close. Save every part of the damage no matter how small and delicate.. On this gun you are fortunate to have those black lines and the damage runs into the forend so you will only have to work on one end cut the damage square stick a piece of matcning wood and grain in there and use a black marks to hide the wound. I would use a fine black marks a lot on the brown to match the dark streaks of the original wood, and that would hide the damage.. the light brown with black matching streaks as the original stock shows.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I have contacted Dennis Smith and have gotten a prompt and very business-like response to my inquiry both about the present rifle and another one which started out with a full length stock and had it shortened for whatever reason. His estimates on the two jobs more or less rocked me back on my heels, but I really had no concept of what a genuinely good job would cost in either case. However, I think I may try to get a second opinion, just to put things in perspective. | |||
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If you care to try a so so repair yourself and have a little skill with a file and sand paper... A little rock hard water putty mixed with some stain will do a decent looking and lasting repair. I would try a mix of walnut and red oak stain and allow some test samples to dry on a piece of scrap wood to compare, first. Otherwise it takes a fair amount of skill and a good bit of time to fit a piece of wood on to there and then some artistic stain and maybe a little paint to do a professional job . Time and skill usually cost a little money. Experience doing a job like that cost even more. | |||
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Any number of people could fix it. Question is what do you want it to look like after.  Increasing the length will show the issue is how much. A cross grain line is next to impossible to mask. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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You may find, so some gunmaker's shagrin, that a repair such as this can be expertly made outside the industry. This is easy for a luthier or guitar restoration shop. In fact, any woodworker/restoration shop would find this repair straightforward. | |||
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It is always best to get more than one opinion on how to do something. Yes, there are those outside the firearms industry who are good at wood repairs. Dennis Earl Smith Professional Member ACGG Benefactor Life NRA Life NAHC | |||
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I am wondering what the estimate was. Your looking at many hours of work . At a decent shop rate your looking at hundreds of dollars. | |||
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 luthier -- totally agree -- though the charges may be high, and expect to fit the barrel yourself .. then again, you could do a "Standard" german repair, which is obvious, but well done opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I had a friend that had Mr. Smith repair a mannlicher stock for him years ago. The stock had been broken and splintered. When the repair was done, it was virtually undetectable, even if you knew where to look. To say that I was impressed is a massive understatement. DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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The estimate is between Mr. Smith and me. I consulted Lon Paul, who has done a good deal of work for me in the past, and he found the estimate to be reasonable. I had approached him with one of the two jobs I have in mind, and he had declined, citing lack of wood selection to accurately match the damaged area. Mr. Smith and I have now come to an agreement. | |||
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Good, I would love to see a picture when completed. It certainly looks like a rifle worth fixing correctly. | |||
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Several AR members have mentioned Dennis Earl Smith and they are spot On! He does fantastic work, is fair and timely. He would be an excellent choice. Looks like your rifle deserves such work. Good luck... Edward Lundberg | |||
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Me? I reckon there's enough length in the forestock to cut off the whole of the damaged section square, put another horn tip in place and then re-contour the end. It'll look just as good. And the two inches that you've lost won't be noticed. | |||
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interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPxFlSM81LU Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I had really good results from Clint Meier. | |||
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Excellent video. BUT  I "believe" he should have matched wood color a touch better. Also I use a plug cutter for a hole repair. Allow proper grain flow.Makes me want to pull out my 1897. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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+1 for when I've done it. | |||
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As usuall the matching of color and grain is the beast..the rest is just a matter of skill. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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