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How long [how many hours] should it take a precision gunsmith to thread, chamber and crown a rifle?

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Jordan

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Posts: 3478 | Location: Northern California | Registered: 15 December 2003Reply With Quote
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How long should it take, an afternoon. How long does it take, about 6-8 months.


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I have done 3 barrels for three different rifles in 1 9 hour day. This was a very unusual day, with no interuptions at all, including the UPS guy.He was running late.
 
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SHOULD....
funny word, as it's subjective...
it SHOULD take a couple hours, start to finish, once the job is started... it SHOULD be a fairly easy task...it SHOULD be several things...

what's the normal thing, even assuming that they have told you 4 weeks with their current load?

from a wicked fast smith, it's 2 weeks, and from some it can be whenever they get tired of hearing you call (3-6 months)

so, i got tired of all this, bought several K in tools to do it myself, and, well, i aint broke even yet!! LMAO

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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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Timus Deterius: a dieasease which is rare among the general population that is highly contagious amongst metalsmiths, stockmakers, and general gunsmiths. The diease impacts that portion of the brain that performs a function commonly known as Time Management. The cause of the diesease is not known yet but it is believed to be borught on by exposure to any of the following elements: chrome moly shavings, blueing salts, walnut shavings, or tongue oil.

The disease cannot be cured with either money or pleading. The only known treatement at this time is single malt scotch and free hunting trips. It is also believed that it can be cured by sending the spouse of the afflicted on a shopping trip to a nearby large city with a Nordstroms.


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,
you forgot...

agrevants of this condition inclde
3 phase electricty
presence of carbide cutting tools
overly particular customers
telephones and internet access
spent primers
air conditioning (why leave the shop if it aint hot/cold)
COFFEE POTS
checkering tools
jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
Posts: 39924 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
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also takes two life times to become a gunsmith this generally slows things way down
 
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I do my benchrest barrels in about 2hrs. This includes all of the above with polishing and engraving also. When you are working with the same brand receiver and have the tooling set up for all of this, it ain't too bad. Shilen barrels seem to shoot better as a whole, but require a lot more polishing time. I don't think that the time required to chamber one is an indication of a good job necessarily. Turk Takano worked at Shilen for many years mainly chambering barrels, he did them in about 45 minutes. He is one of the best and most careful of anybody that I have seen. Turk is now a writer and photographer of Japan's largest gun magazine. website for photos www.wildshot.net. Butch
 
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I edited Turk's website to www.wildshot.net instead of .com Butch
 
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As long as it takes to get everything right....

Sometimes that is two hours; sometimes it is two days.....

BigRx
 
Posts: 208 | Location: Idaho Rockies | Registered: 25 December 2004Reply With Quote
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Remington barrels run about 45 min......Winchester adds another 30min. on the average, but that's negotiable depending on how many at one time your doing.

With the right tools, it goes pretty fast, but there's no substitute for good experience, and the willingness to preform the job in a quality fashion, while still being efficient.

2-3 hour barrel jobs may not be lacking the quality, but they're definitely lacking the efficiency.

To recut the threads, face the receiver, square the locking abutments, true and face the bolt, and chamber a Remington can normally be done in about an 1 1/2 hours, that is of course if you're working with a semi-decent receiver and you've got 3-6 of them to do.


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