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A while back...

For about a dozen years...

Lived in a house between the county sheriff's mother-in-law and the judge. Shot in the shop all the time. Never a problem.

But again, this was not in Kalifornia.

Setup allowed every round to be chronographed and be tested in ballistic media.
 
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A while back...

For about a dozen years...

Lived in a house between the county sheriff's mother-in-law and the judge. Shot in the shop all the time. Never a problem.

But again, this was not in Kalifornia.

Setup allowed every round to be chronographed and be tested in ballistic media.


Well, in those small towns where everyone shares the same DNA they sometimes have a more lax attitude towards that sort of stuff since its all sort of in the “family†so to speak! Eeker
 
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Rick,

I just looked up where exactly you are in California. Not really that far from me in when I am in San Diego, only bad thing is 60 miles of urban hell between us. LA: I just hate getting anywhere close, Longbeach, Compton, Florence, Commerce, are all points in between us and drive through spots, and I got to tell you driving through them is right up there in my mind to taking a visit to downtown Bhagdad, although the natives might be friendlier in Iraq.

Maybe one of these weekends we can meet up for luch or something, possibly on neutral ground. Might give us a reason to drive out to Victorville or something.
 
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Terry,

I don’t often admit to that one...but couldn’t resist in this case since the gentleman making that comment was from Tennesse.

Actually I was born in the Navy hospital in Millington...but no one outside of the Memphis area knows where that is.


I know exactly where. They down sized the base about 10yrs ago, the place doesn't look the same. I was raised in Whitehaven and live just a little south now in Mississippi. Small world.

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Terry,

I don’t often admit to that one...but couldn’t resist in this case since the gentleman making that comment was from Tennesse.

Actually I was born in the Navy hospital in Millington...but no one outside of the Memphis area knows where that is.


I know exactly where. They down sized the base about 10yrs ago, the place doesn't look the same. I was raised in Whitehaven and live just a little south now in Mississippi. Small world.

Terry


Terry,

I’ve only been back to Memphis once over the years and that was to work on a movie so I didn’t have much time to run around looking at stuff. Stayed at the famous old Hotel (can’t remember the name) where the ducks march in and out twice a day.
 
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From the good old Texas state codes:

Title 7, chapter 229, section 229.001(2):

“Municipalities may regulate the discharge of firearms within the limits of the municipalityâ€

Title 7, chapter 235, section 235.002 (Authority to regulate):

“ In order to promote public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of a firearm on lots that are 10 acres or less and are located in the unicorporated area of the county in a subdivision.â€
 
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How about we get back on the SUBJECT and not what is right or wrong by the law, that is for MarkL to search his laws in his jurisdiction. Anybody else that wants to do this, shoot inside, needs to look up the laws where they live, we don't need to scwable about what "we" think is right.
The origanal question is: "anybody know what to use" more or less.
I saw somewhere that a guy took a couple of 8" or 10" PVC or similar (the grren stuff the use for water) and lined them with egg-create foam. He set one up, put the chrony up then the other one. That according to him pretty much got rid of the noise, by sticking the muzzle into it, and got him his numbers. (I woulld be a little leary of "flame" on the foam, especially with a muzzle-break) Am not sure what he used for a bullet trap or if was all outside and he had a backstop. I would think though if you took a good long cardboard box and satcked it full of phonebooks it would stop most anything you could throw at it (within reason). (I would do at least 24" of phone books)

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Posts: 3242 | Location: Cruising through the Milky Way at 98,000fps | Registered: 03 October 2005Reply With Quote
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After the pictures of the reloading setup, there are pictures of an indoor shooting setup.

Outdoor bullet traps are made of sand filled plywood boxes with foam-rubber in the front for self-sealing. Railroad ties have been setup behind the sand boxes.

Indoor bullet traps (not shown) have been made out of RubberMaid 24-gallon Action Packers filled with sand with six-inches of foam rubber in the front to make it self-sealing. The Action Packer is set on metal-frame Gorilla Racks for proper height.


http://forums.sixgunner.com/One_example_of_reloading_setup/m_27446/tm.htm
 
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Asking the question is not stupid at all. Turning it into an argument is, and you certainly didn't do that. The gentleman from Kalifornia did that imposing what he deems prudent. It isn't the first time a self righteous left coaster tried to impose their views of reality on others, and it certainly won't be the last. Many people test fire from their homes. Only you can decide if it is prudent or not.

I've tried to figure out the same thing but decided it wasn't worth the trouble since a firing range is only 10 minutes from my home. But I would if I could come up with an affordable, dependable contraption to do so. Jim R


Just so you know...I was born in Memphis.

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It appears from your attitude you have settled in to the left coast quite nicely. I went almost 80 miles an hour today on a roadway posted for 65. I suppose you look unfavorably upon that as well.

Without regard for state, local, or county regulations, if someone has the inclination to design, construct, and use a contraption with which to safely fire a weapon into to test loads, what is it to you? Why ridicule a guy by questioning his worthiness for owning a firearm based on legitimate question he has brough tbefore this wealth of knowledge here at AR? That's all I'm saying. He was too nice a guy to just tell you to go to hell. He didn't ask if it was legal. I am sure he is aware of firearm laws in his area, although he may decide to skirt them a bit IF he has a failsafe way of doing so. Is it worth the risk of getting caught? Only he knows the answer to that.

After considering this much more than I planned on, I did happen to recall one individual here in East Tenn that indeed does have and use an indoor shooting apparatus inside the city limit. He is world acclaimed as one of the foremost experts in firearms alive today, and anyone that lives in this part of the country knows who I am talking about. I haven't seen his name in the news for breaking any laws relating to firearms as of yet. I guess time will tell. Jim R
 
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It appears from your attitude you have settled in to the left coast quite nicely. I went almost 80 miles an hour today on a roadway posted for 65. I suppose you look unfavorably upon that as well.

Without regard for state, local, or county regulations, if someone has the inclination to design, construct, and use a contraption with which to safely fire a weapon into to test loads, what is it to you? Why ridicule a guy by questioning his worthiness for owning a firearm based on legitimate question he has brough tbefore this wealth of knowledge here at AR? That's all I'm saying. He was too nice a guy to just tell you to go to hell. He didn't ask if it was legal. I am sure he is aware of firearm laws in his area, although he may decide to skirt them a bit IF he has a failsafe way of doing so. Is it worth the risk of getting caught? Only he knows the answer to that.

After considering this much more than I planned on, I did happen to recall one individual here in East Tenn that indeed does have and use an indoor shooting apparatus inside the city limit. He is world acclaimed as one of the foremost experts in firearms alive today, and anyone that lives in this part of the country knows who I am talking about. I haven't seen his name in the news for breaking any laws relating to firearms as of yet. I guess time will tell. Jim R


No, Jim...my attitude is now, and always has been that each person is entitled to express his own opinion, as long as he states it as an opinion...which is what I did.

I guess you missed my comment about my driving habits or you wouldn’t have asked such a silly question. You drive 80mph out here and little old ladies will run you off the road trying to get past you! Smiler

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...Actually I was born in the Navy hospital in Millington...but no one outside of the Memphis area knows where that is.
Hey Rick, I went to "C" School in Millington. Saw some HUGE Deer Northwest of town, but didn't get to hunt any of them.

The town where I'm at right now has enacted all kinds of Laws about "discharging firearms" since I was here 40 years ago. Always someone "trying" to tell a person how to live.
 
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...Actually I was born in the Navy hospital in Millington...but no one outside of the Memphis area knows where that is.
Hey Rick, I went to "C" School in Millington. Saw some HUGE Deer Northwest of town, but didn't get to hunt any of them.

The town where I'm at right now has enacted all kinds of Laws about "discharging firearms" since I was here 40 years ago. Always someone "trying" to tell a person how to live.


I spent all of about six months in Tennesse when my dad got transferred to Norman, Oklahoma and we moved there for two years...followed by...and followed by...ah, the life of a military family!

Between being a military kid, then spending time in the military myself, then spending over 30 years in the motion picture business shooting films on-location I think the only state I haven’t been to is Maine.

The point of my opinions and earlier comments go hand in hand with your last statement. Restrictive laws are normally (not always, but normally) proceeded by incidents of irresponsible behavior that have resulted in accidental deaths, injuries or property damage.

Anti-gun forces certainly don’t need any help to promote their agenda...so why go out of our way to provide some for them?

In my opinion, constructing some Rube-Golderberg homemade bullet trap to use in the garage of a home in a residential neighborhood, for “experiments†with high powered rifles and ammunition, is a good example of what might be considered irresponsible behavior by a normal prudent person...and I would bet that most juries would share that opinion.

If someone else chooses to form other opinions on the matter then they are certainly free to do so, and I wish them all the luck in the world.
 
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The way the laws read in Hawaii [Oahu] it was illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits if:
1. The bullet leaves the property.
2. The noise disturbs a neighbor.
I built my test tube from a 8` piece of steel pipe 8" in diameter. I tack welded two 55 gal barrels together with the centers cut out to form a 110 gal barrel. I cut a hole in one end just large enough to accomodate the pipe and buried the whol mess in the ground at an angle so shooting was done at about a 35 deg angle. I made a cover from 1" Ply and lined the first foot or so of the pipe with common foam padding rolled up. The Ply covered the opening and kept stuff out. I fired everything up to and including 50 BMG [recoil was a bear] and it held up real good. It is still there as far as I know. Made the same thing here and its working great. Saves a lot of $$$$$ at todays gas prices going to the range. I usually just work up to max with a given cartridge and then load 3-5 round groups after backing down 3 grs or so and THEN go to the range to figure if they work.

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...and I would bet that most juries would share that opinion...


Is that Kalifornia juries or juries in the rest of America ?
 
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For what I'ts worth. . . as a story.

The police in a smallish country town wanted to know how the local gunsmith testfired his repairs etc.

He took them out to his footpath,(public walkway) flipped the top off a pipe about 4"diam. sunk into the ground, put a rifle down to the start of the action, stuffed rag around the gap, loaded up, and, not even a sneeze noise was heard. (He'd showed me another time.)

It apparently was quite deep, and I hope it wasn't part of the town sewerage system. Smiler
Last I heard he's still getting away with it.
 
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One of our major gun shops here is in the mall. They don't do any smithing there, but they do test fire every trade-in gun for function. I know, since I used to work there. So, we were shooting all kinds of stuff into a snail trap in the mall (on the second floor) in the middle of a city of 60000. Never a complaint or even a visit by the police. You could hardly hear the sound of the shot once you got out of the back room.

It can be done, but I would make sure that all local codes were met before blindly forging on ahead.


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Mark Stratton and I went to a stockmaking class taught by Mark Silver in the 90's at Susanville CA. There was a full auto class going on in another room. There was one of those snail bullet traps in a room adjacent to the shop where we were. The full auto guys would come in and let out a deafening burst and scare a few months off your life span. This one was anything but quiet.


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Anybody know of a way to safely and inconspicuously test-fire a rifle in, say, one's garage? I'm looking for something that will safely stop the bullets and muffle the muzzle blast enough to avoid alarming the neighbors. The purpose is to be able to work up max loads with varous powder/bullet combinations so this is really a reloading question, but I figure gunsmiths occasionally need to test-fire guns without making a trip to the range.


I lived in a couple of places where I could shoot a .22 into a largish oak log in the basement, never did it with a center-fire.


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There is pawn shop that started up in Woodenville WA, an urbane and up scale area.

The owner complained to me that he could not get the permit from the police for shooting into the shooting tank to check pistols.

Some background on the Woodenville police:
They did not do anything about Coast Arms, a gun shop in Woodenville 10 years ago, until the police got ripped off by Coast. THEN they closed the place down.
 
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...and I would bet that most juries would share that opinion...


Is that Kalifornia juries or juries in the rest of America ?


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