I've been toying around w/ the idea of having a custom built for some time now but, to be honest I'm just plain leary of having one built.

Reason? Just don't know that I'll be satisfied.

I have several Factory rifles that will shoot less than 1/2 MOA. A Sendero and 700P that will do much less when I do my part. That said, the few custom rifles that I've seen at the local range would not beat my results w/ my factory rifles and I just hate to think about sinking a ton of money into a rifle that's no better than the safe full sittin' at the house.

I would spend the dough if I could be quite confident that the rifle would consistently shoot 1/4 MOA w/ the proper loads and I'm just not sure that would be the result.

I'm getting the feeling that I should just go ahead and buy another Sendero whenever I get a hankering and put the extra $$ on glass.

Opinions on the Issue?

Thanks,

Reloader

My opinion is that there are many different reasons for ordering a custom rifle.

It sounds like yours is accuracy, whereas somebody else may order one because they like special wood, or special metalwork, etc.

Since you can be satisfied with the accuracy you can get off the shelf, it would seem there is no reason for you to order a custom gun.

If you are serious about 1/4" groups see a man about a benchrest rifle.

I doubt you can be assured of 1/4" groups even then.....I doubt that Remington's 40X is a sure thing.....

Ask any gun builder if he will "guarantee 1/4" groups.....see what the reply is!!!

FWIF if you really own 1/2" shooters now you need to know that improving on that is not a simple matter.....and has little value other than bragging rights.....and of course that's worth something.

Don't buy a custom. If you're looking for accuracy alone, chances are you will be disappointed. You'd be better served by purchasing five identical factory rifles and trying them out for accuracy, then selling the four least accurate rifles. Even then, you might find disappointment. I don't believe 1 in 5 factory rifles is a .5" shooter - much less a .25" shooter.

I have 3 custom rifles ,I did,nt spend a fortune on them either. I put together a custom 35 whelen on an old mauser, and I think I am in it abuot 600.00. I did not want a remington and I wanted a whelen. It shoots great! I have a custom 25,06 I am in probably 800.00. I wanted a 26 inch barrel and a laminated thumbhole stock, Don't know of a factory that builds one. My other one is a .270, that just did,nt meet my standards for accuracy and about 1000.00 later still doesent, thinking of making it into a .257 roberts. If you want somthing nobody makes you gota go custom, and you can spend a ton of money or a coparitivly small amount. its up to you!!! ...tj3006...tj3006

Shooting “consistent†¼ inch groups quite literally means that you can “consistently†place all your shots in the same hole.

If you had the ability to do that you wouldn’t be on here looking for rifle builders...they would be looking for you so they could give you one of their rifles for free!

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Originally posted by vapodog:
If you are serious about 1/4" groups see a man about a benchrest rifle.

I doubt you can be assured of 1/4" groups even then.....I doubt that Remington's 40X is a sure thing.....

Ask any gun builder if he will "guarantee 1/4" groups.....see what the reply is!!!

FWIF if you really own 1/2" shooters now you need to know that improving on that is not a simple matter.....and has little value other than bragging rights.....and of course that's worth something.

Concur, on the .25 MOA, if I get a gun that shoots that well I have a ton of money tied up in a benchrest target-varmit type rifle, with no guarantee....I have seen a few guns do that and some even better, not a one was a stock rifle, 1/2 MOA is a exceptional factory rifle, I have seen Remington 40X's shoot just over that consistantly ( 5 and 10 shoot groups ), and I own a Milspec 700 that will do a tad under consistantly, this are exceptinal factory rifes not the norm. If your serious about a 1/4 MOA ( actually I would want a teens rifle for all that effort .16-.18 vrs .250") Start with Hart barrel about 1" in diameter, a Hall or BAT machine action, scope with 16-20+ power, a McMillin stock, then go hire the best pickiest benchrest specialist rifle builder. A name off the top of my head would be Jim Borden, if thats what you want he is probably one the guys to make that happen.

You guys are wasting your time posting on this forum. You should be out there setting world records and having sponsors supplying you with all the rifles and gear you want.

Best thing to do is save the money that you would spend on expensive hunts and custom rifles and enjoy shooting more often.You could do alot of shooting with 30000 dollars.Just bought a book today on the cartridges of the world.Great enjoyment for 15 dollars.But then once in a while the brain needs some medicine to function properly so in comes the mother of a rifle or the big safari.

depends on what chassis you want...

want a benchgun or least like a bench gun? those can be had for a max of 10k new....

would you be happy with a 3/8 to 1/4? go around and buy a USED benchgun, as those are outside true competition grade...1500-2500...

want a factory rifle that is always sub 1/2 moa?

read this slowly

go buy a rem 788 in 708 and never lock back...

you might need to buy 2 or 3 to get the groups you are loading for, and then load for it...

or buy ANY once competitive hunter class bench rifle...

jeffe

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would you be happy with a 3/8 to 1/4? go around and buy a USED benchgun, as those are outside true competition grade...1500-2500...

Jeffe,

Hadn't thought about that but, I'll look into it.

Reloader

Calibers have to do more with getting consistent good groups than rifles.IF you just want good groups buy a 308,6ppc,223 in a regular factory remington and you have what it takes.If you go with magnum calibers you will not have consistent good groups for very long no matter what rifle.From what I see here on the forum and elsewhere big bore rounds will never give below half inch groups.