Matt, I wish I had a good suggestion for you, but I don't. I would like to say thanks for bringing this out in the open. Not only do I know to stay clear of this Pomeroy character, but also GunsAmerica! I just sent in a request to cancel my membership with a hyperlink to this thread.

Thanks,
Terry

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Originally quoted by Cold Bore:
Generally they were mentally unstable to start and the ego hit sends them ballistic, which was the case here. Yes, the internet is a funny place.

Paul (Shlomo) Helinski

I would say that he speaks with authority about something that he knows...
:-) :-)) :-D

Carcano

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Originally posted by Cold Bore from Shlomo:
...This guy is a real gem. I assure you, when someone makes this much noise, it was they who boggled the transaction to start. The seller has been here for litterally years with no prior complaint over almost 200 transactions. ...Usually buyers like this make up the story blah, blah, blah...

Thanks Cold Bore. That confirms that this guy really has no intention of trying to run his site in an upright and professional manner. Obviously way too busy to have to deal with a problem. And also obvious it is not the first complaint from a buyer.

"If" the seller has indeed completed 200 transactions on GunsAmerica as Shlomo claims, then the seller has a vested interest in the place and would "probably" have responded favorably to a request by Shlomo to help Matt with his problem.

But no, he can't take a few minutes to help Matt and end up actually making GunsAmerica a fair and honest place that a "potential buyer" can hear positive things about. Rather, Shlomo decides the GunsAmerica way to deal with the issue is to just flush Matt out of the system along with a "GunsAmerica Customer Support Problem".

Absolutely pitiful!!!
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Joke of the Thread: "GunsAmerica Customer Support".

I got hosed by Chas. Daly on a serious warranty issue and made light of it on three forums I participate in. I'm not sure I hurt them at all but I sure feel better!!!

I can assure you that this thread will be remembered by me and I'll let the feelings be known as the need arises.

We have no need for this kind of busnessman.

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I can assure you that this thread will be remembered by me and I'll let the feelings be known as the need arises.

We have no need for this kind of busnessman.

Ditto. You know this guy is reading this thread, I suggest if he's not aware of the traffic he look at the bottom of the page and at the counter to get an idea. The wonderfull, free and fast spread of valuable information at work via the world wide web.

Gentlemen,
I thought I would post a few photos of the rifle. I took the scope bases off to find a bit more undisclosed damage. No doubt another honest oversight. It appears that someone covered the wear marks in the blueing with the front scope base. It is worn completely through in three spots to white metal. The picture fails to capture the wear in it's entirety...

A few photos of the dremel damage in the trigger guard. Whomever bedded the rifle did so at an angle. Hence the barreled action/trigger sets in the stock at an angle. Hence they had to relieve the trigger guard...



A shot of the relief work for the bedding...


I'm going to reserve comment on Shlomo. I would not know where to begin...

Regards, Matt Garrett
Chesapeake, Virginia

Matt, like others have said thanks for telling us what to expect from Mr.Pomeroy. I had doubts about using Gunsmamerica before your post..I will not ever use that site and will tell others about this. Thanks once again

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This guy is a real gem. I assure you, when someone makes this much noise,
it was they who boggled the transaction to start. The seller has been here
for litterally years with no prior complaint over almost 200 transactions.
The internet is a funny place. You automatically believed that he was
telling the truth. You have no idea whether he made it all up, or just the
part about the gun. Usually buyers like this make up the story after their
ffl dealer who took the gun in makes fun of them for paying too much.
Generally they were mentally unstable to start and the ego hit sends them
ballistic, which was the case here. Yes, the internet is a funny place.
-ph

Wow what a classy guy. I have actually been thinking about buying off of the gunsamerica.com site. However, after this comment aside from fraudulent sellers, I'm not going to do business with idiots like this Schlomo character. Thanks Matt for the heads up. By the way get some counseling for that overblown ego of your's!!

Shlomo's quote "their ffl dealer who took the gun in makes fun of them for paying too much".

Sounds like Shlomoshits caters to disonest sellers! Maybe people are paying too much because the guns are misrepresented and condition lied about.


Gunsamerica has always had sellers with higher prices than gunbroker or auction arms. I smell a fish!!

I just now read the entire thread and went to GA to check on Mr. P's ads.

The 2 Weatherby ads I looked at contained the following statement:

"To all my "fans" out there who are posting spam regarding the sale of a certain M70 Win on Guns America. This firearm was disassembled during the three day inspection period and therefore not eligible for return. Regardless of your insults, threats and filthy e-mails, this is my policy. A special thanks to all those who have voiced their support since this started. Shipping and any other fees are not refundable. References available on request. Appreciate your business. Thank You, Phil"

He must be a good buddy of GA's owner.

Back to work for me now.

John

Wonder if the original ad said anything about disassembly voiding the 3 day inspection. So how do you inspect it without disassembly? So the rifle can be rusted and pitted like one of the old Salt Brownings but you can't check for that!?! Heck of a deal for the seller.

So it ok to use the ad to defend yourself but not warn. Yep real good buddy of the owner.

Wow. Thanks, Matt, for posting your unfortunate experiences. On the basis of them I'm cured from any urge to purchase through Guns America. And will drive around Rexville, NY, just in case Mr. Pomeroy has a real place of business in which I might otherwise be tempted to browse. -WSJ

It is pretty obvious that there are some serious problems with that M70! Many of them don't show up in a cursory inspection, but make it an unsuitable basis for a custom rebuild! I don't know if the rifle meets the seller's original description or not, but his unwillingness to satisfy his customer makes dealing with him a chancy affair.

It seems to me that the website has no culpability for shady dealings by those listing for sale items, but they do have a responsibility to take action when anyone listing on their site is apparently involved in fraudulent misrepresentation! It seems to me that the idea that a rifle can't be disassembled for inspection is an unreasonable policy. How else is the customer supposed to discover potentially dangerous problems in a firearm??

I guess the lesson here is "pay with a credit card"!!

This guy clearly thinks that the average gun buyer is an idiot.

He is actually offering, as his public excuse, the fact that because the rifle was properly inspected (which REQUIRES disassembly) during the three day inspection period, it "was not eligible for return"?!

Note that he doesn't claim that the rifle was damaged in any way, or say anything at all about his original ad which misrepresented its condition.

This guy redefines unscrupulous. What's funny is that his excuse, which he now feels the need to post with his ads, should be enough to scare away anyone thinking of buying from him!

Way to go flushing this rat out of the sewer Matt.

A few years back. I bought a mod 70 from a #@& in Sanantonio Tx. It was listed on Guns America.I dident follow their protocall and mailed the cashiers check directly to him. The rifle never showed up. I contacted this fellow and got a song and dance about the shipping.I told him to forget the whole thing and please just refund the $$. He told me nothing doin. I then contacted Guns America and "Shlomo" steped up to the plate to help me. I fessed up and told him strait up that I had not sent the check to Guns America so that they could hold the funds till all was clear and the dust was settled. It's a very simple policy and fool proof from what I can tell. Needless to say he contacted this fellow and got about the same story I got.He kept in touch with me for the duration. I had to get my girlfriend (Shes a cop) to contact the F.B.I. They put heat on the #$% in Tx. He then called me and we had a discussion. I got the rifle. I learned several things through all the mess. The 1st was....Follow Guns America's instructions to the letter. 2, Dont be cheap and try to save a few bucks and by pass them. The fee is small compaired to the headaches that can arrise from doing things yourself.3, Shlomo stayed intouch and was very supportive. He realy dident have to help at all as I was the one who by passed Guns America.........

About 5 months ago I actually talked to this Phil character about buying a LH 340 WBY. I have also bought one other gun on GunsAmerica. But, given this info, never again. I appreciate your posting this, Matt. I have been mentally masturbating about that 340, but alas I will have to redirect my energies.

Okay. I want to know who is responsible for this thread. My wife is going to be pissed. I carefully read the complaint and went to GA to check it out for myself. Well I got looking at the Weatherby's and thought I would just pop over to Gun Broker to see what they had. Did a quick search on Accumark and up pops this sweet 257 WBY Accumark that looks pretty clean with only a few minutes to go and it was going way to cheap. I thought I can't let this guy steal it so I put in an honest bid. There was a little more action but not enough to top my bid. You guessed it. 20 minutes later I'm now the owner of 2 257 Accumarks. I already have one just like it. Tell me now. Who is responsible for offering a recovering gun addict a deal on a rifle? Who?

My name is Shawn and I haven’t bought a new rifle in 16 hours.

P.S. Now I need another scope!

Hard to imagine a better deer/antelope gun. Have fun.