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Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
Gentlemen,
I apologise for this being off topic, however, I think it's relevant to the membership. I do not like to air dirty laundry in public, however, I feel a need to keep anyone else from getting burnt. I bought a used Winchester Model 70 Classic Super Grade in .30/06' from Phil Pomeroy Quality Firearms via Gunsamerica.com. His ad described the rifle as 98% of original condition. I received the rifle on 4/20/05 and noted normal nicks and scratches befitting a 98% rifle. There was, however, damage to the toe of the stock which had not been mentioned or shown in any of the nine digital photographs he sent. I also noted that the blueing had been ground away from inside the trigger guard. This looked like the removal of the bedded compound with a dremel tool. I bought the rifle largely because of the stock figure and had planned to have it rebarreled and bedded. The deal breaker was that the rifle had been do-it-yourself pillar bedded. I also noted that the rings and bases were not the Leupold models advertised. I e-mailed Mr. Pomeroy that afternoon explaining that the rifle was not what he had described OR what we had agreed to. I also mentioned the damage to the toe of the stock that was not mentioned in the ad OR shown in any of the nine digital pictures he forwarded. He choose to wait until the third day and my second e-mail to respond. He said the damage to the toe of the stock was "regrettable, but that happens with use." He said he "was not aware of the bedding job.", however, I had "disassembled the rifle without my(his) permission" and the "three day inspection ended" at that time. Hence he would "not accept "the return of this firearm."

I think the funniest part of his reply, if it were not soo pathetic, is that he "noticed the mounts and rings were not Leupold when packing the rifle, but didn't think it would be an issue. Besides, to some, "Leupold" has become a generic term for describing these parts." I thought that pretty much took the cake. There was evidently quite alot Mr. Pomeroy did not think would matter, however, to me it does.

I consider this to be a case of FRAUD...

Should any interested party have the desire I have copies of all of the e-mails and should have pictures of the rifle tomorrow afternoon. By all means FEEL FREE TO COPY AND POST THIS ON ANY OTHER FORUM YOU FREQUENT where it would be appropriate. I can only say the entire experience has been a disappointment. This marks the end of my buying weapons from unknown sources via the Internet. In all the years I've worked in this business I've never received a bad check or experienced a fraudulent transaction. Until now. Be certain of who you are sending your money to...

Regards, Matt Garrett
Chesapeake, Virginia
mattgarrett@earthlink.net
757-581-6270

His contact information:

Phil Pomeroy Quality Firearms
518 Shamrock Rd
Rexville NY 14877
(607) 356-3577
philny1@zoominternet.net
FFL # 6-16-101-01-5L-00472

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Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
Gentlemen,
I sent Gunsamerica the complaint on 4/26. They never responded, however, they evidently took exception to the BUYER BEWARE PHIL POMEROY ads that I placed. I received the following e-mail from Paul (Shlomo) Helinsk, of Gunsamerica Custom Support, on 5/4:

On May 4, 2005, at 9:12 PM, GunsAmerica Support wrote:

Hi. You have been banned and added to our list of fraudulent posters. This isn't a place for games and it will not be tolerated.
Paul (Shlomo) Helinski
GunsAmerica Customer Support

I sent him the following message:
Hi Paul,
You can be assured that my posts had NOTHING to do with "games". As a matter of fact I sent Gunsamerica.com an e-mail on April 26th on this issue that was not answered. I'll attach that e-mail if you would have the courtesy to read it(I included the e-mails exchanged from Mr. Pomeroy and myself as well). If you have any questions please feel free to call or e-mail me. I greatly appreciate your time...

Matt Garrett
Chesapeake, Virginia

He responded on 5/6 with:

"You posted the ads. You are gone. And you are also on the permanent fraud list."

It would be funny if it were not soo pathetic. I'm the "fraudulent" seller now... Right. I can only suggest that you know who your money is going to as Gunsamerica sides with whomever pays the most for ad space...

Regards, Matt Garrett
Chesapeake, Virginia

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Matt,

It's time to get some government agencies involved; to handle Pomeroy's shenanigans, and to investigate GunsAmerica's complicity in the furtherance of fraud.

George

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Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:
... You have been banned (at Gunsamerica)...

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
We can also screw with this Pomeroy character by contacting him to buy his guns, and not carry through.

This will be especially effective if a couple of people want the same gun, and offer to outbid the 'other buyer'.

George

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The seller has been here
for litterally years with no prior complaint over almost 200 transactions.
The internet is a funny place. You automatically believed that he was
telling the truth.

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Generally they were mentally unstable to start and the ego hit sends them
ballistic, which was the case here. Yes, the internet is a funny place.

Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns]