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Need input on this...
18 July 2005, 16:29
AndersNeed input on this...
To things.
The first picture is the rifle barrel on my drilling. The other day I did clean it thouroghly after shooting. Used the Butch Bore Shine. When I patch exits witout beeing coloured blue it`s supposed to be copper-free.. Is this brown colour in the barrel copper or what?
And the other pictures is the stock on the same gun. I got it back from my gunsmith after he had put on a longer recoil pad. It seems like he have put on another kind of stock oil.. Not like a laquer but almost. You can see the shine.. How can this be removed? Not a big deal so I just want to fix it myself..
18 July 2005, 17:57
jeffeossoRotten stone would clean that up, but it looks like it could use a refinish
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What shine? Looks like it's been gouged up with some rough paper and files. Sure looks like a little finish would help a lot. I think you will need to do that before you try any rottenstone.
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I'd try some Sweet's or the Foam bore cleaner that everyone on te forum raves about, Wipe-Out.
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18 July 2005, 18:52
HP ShooterAnders, for copper removal I find that the mild abrasive paste cleaners (Iosso, JB. USP) designed for barrel cleaning, combined with a solvent like Butch's does the best job of all in the least amount of time.
BTW, that brown stuff IS copper. What I find odd is that all your copper fouling looks to be on the lands. I normally see it in the grooves instead.
18 July 2005, 19:03
tiggertateRoger on the scratches. They are from the pad installation and he threw some finish on them without the proper prep work and filling. The shiny spots are the new finish on top of your old original finish. Oil will do that.
I'm curious about what appears to be copper all over the muzzle too. Haven't seen that before but I'm not around drillings much.
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Is that copper? Or is that rust?
The last time I saw something like that it was a Mauser barrel that someone hadn't cleaned properly after firing some corrosive ammo through.
In any case, I think more elbow grease is needed.
Tex
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18 July 2005, 23:09
El DeguelloIt's gilding metal or copper wash from bullet jackets (NOT RUST!!) that have passed through the bore. In other words, it ain't clean yet!!
Rust would be most obvious in the grooves, not on the tops of the lands of a rifle that was just fired.
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18 July 2005, 23:42
Savage99quote:
What I find odd is that all your copper fouling looks to be on the lands. I normally see it in the grooves instead.
That does not make sense.
In any case there is copper in the barrel and on the muzzle. How so much got on the muzzle is a question. What to do is to clean it now with some mild abrasive made for barrel cleaning such as Remingtons.
Nice photo's by the way.
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18 July 2005, 23:51
new_guyLooks like copper to me... probably take a couple of appliacations of wipe-out and you're done.
Check out the pics here...
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4.../315101252#315101252As for the damage to the stock finish. I'd get a new gunsmith! He shouldn't be grinding the pad down to the point that it messes up your stock finish.
20 July 2005, 01:22
AndersI`m pretty sure it`s not rust. I have always been very careful with my guns. Most of the time I clean the bore the same day shots have been fired or rainy weather have made impact..

But I might have not used the right solvent from the start. Earlier I did use only normal oil and not copper or powder remover, so it might just need a good clean-up.
I will surely order some wipe-out new_guy! Looks like a great product..
It doesn`t look just as awful as on the picture actually. The light might have tuned it up a bit.

The original stock finisk is pretty matte, while the new finish had made some spots shiny. I thought of a laquer remover.. It`s probably best to call him first and ask what that finish is.. Hope he remembers, because it`s a year or two ago...

Can you please recommend a stock finish sets that will guide me through the hole prosess? From removing old finish, filling pores, colouring, finish...
Thanks for your comments everyone!
