For a "ute window" 12 gauge I have recently put on lay away a baikal 12 gauge coach gun which has hammers to cock the gun but they use the normal internal mechanisim not the normal hammer mechanism.............I like this as I can instantly see if it's cocked.

My question is this is the only gun I have ever seen like this and I am wondering if it is common/reliable. I do not mind baikals stuff it's basic but sturdy sort of stuff.

Christ PC! Mate, next you'll be buying Remingtons For what it's worth my "ute shottie" is a regular Baikal SxS, built like brick shithouses and just keep working no matter what teh knocks!
Cheers mate...
Con

Con,

I have owned a couple of Baikals in the past......this one has fake hammers which cock the action (ideal for a ute shottie) and is also choked and still has 18" or 20" barrels.

I wanted a hammer action for the ute shottie for saftey reasons, I am going to add a big white bead and a slip on recoil pad. I have just never seen a shottie with an imitation hammer system before ??

I tell you what the bloody thing does not have a bad bit of timber on it beleive it or not !!

Fair enough too, having hammers on a ute gun. If you can't see its cocked you can feel it I suppose. My Baikal has always been a great ute gun, using AAAs its always been deadly on the "big hares".
Cheers...
Con

Con,

we think alike !! I have used AAA's in a short barrel 12 gauge for Years and I like them much better than sg's and ssg's............although when SG's work they really work

I have owned a baikal hammer in the past but never with fake hammers that utilise the normal internal sxs mechanism instead of the nipple set up nomral hammer guns have

PC,
Howdy Mate...

I, personaly, dislike muleears on guns. But the cocking hammers with internal strikers seems to be of the best..

Here's what i think on it... with my stoeger shottie, if it's closed it's cocked!! no hammers to pull, just flick the safety off!!!

jeffe

Jeffo,

the reasons I like a hammer gun for spotlighting out of the truck is you can have it on the dash with a couple of sheels in it and closed.............ready for that hopper or fox that bolts your way they just add an extra elemnt of saftey when fumbling around in the dark in a ute cabin.

I just have never seen a gun that uses hammers to cock internal strikers............who else has made them in history and are they any good or better than the standard hammer gun with external strikers ??