I hav edone a search and never could find the answer I am looking for. What exactly is eliminated from the CZ trigger when switching to the Timney unit?

Also, is that same screwed up sear & sear spring retained as it is in the factory abortion of a trigger?

Are there any other real alternatives? Not talking about AHR, they really don't change much of anything.

When is CZ going to put a real trigger at least on their DGR's???

What's wrong with just reworking the factory trigger? I've reworked several 550 triggers and as of yet have not had any problems.

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Originally posted by Westpac:
What's wrong with just reworking the factory trigger? I've reworked several 550 triggers and as of yet have not had any problems.

Ditto, in my opinion. All it has to be is adjusted. The Timney would be nice because it sits in the back of the trigger guard and hence less lkiely to bang your f**# you finger.

marc,
the timney is about 1/3 the parts of the factory trigger
jeffe

Jeffe-

Does the Timney still use the same sear and spring arrangement?

Marc,
If you have a chance, call David. He did mine last year.
Butch

Mark:
If you do a search on this forum, I posted pics of one I put on my CZ550. If you can't find them, or you want additional pics, please let me know and I will e-mail them to you. My e-mail is in my profile.
The Timney is about 2/3 the size and has about 30% of the moving parts, IMO. I put mine in in about 20 minutes, including adjustment. To me this is a BIG improvement over the factory set up. It may just be me, but the factory trigger just seemed like a piece of bent wire that stuck out into the trigger guard....

congomike's cz pics


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certainly looks like an improvment.
I think there are lots of good things about the Cz 550. But the trigger that they use has no buisness on a big game or a DG rifle, and the stocks are simply to damn heavy on most of them.
I think if Ruger comes out with a 416 Ruger on the .375 case in the hawkeye, they will have clearly the best buy in a DG rifle.
They could use a better recoil pad, but thats a small matter...tj3006

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Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
certainly looks like an improvment.

While the Timney certainly appears less "complicated", the factory 550 trigger has a built in "Set" feature.

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Originally posted by Jeffe: marc,
the timney is about 1/3 the parts of the factory trigger
jeffe

Single set triggers are usually a little more complex.

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Originally posted by Will:
less lkiely to bang your f**# you finger.

Around these parts that's referred to as the "hole" finger.

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Originally posted by Westpac:
While the Timney certainly appears less "complicated", the factory 550 trigger has a built in "Set" feature.

The whole idea is to REMOVE the set trigger option!! You may like set triggers or not, but they make absolutely no sense on a big bore, DGR rifle!!

A colleague of mine had the CZ standard (set - shudder) trigger modified in his .416 Rigby. Man, what a POS that produced! I have NEVER operated a trigger with as much creep. No, not just take up, pure creep. It was horrifying.

Now, I don't know who did this for him, or whether he "fixed" it himself, nor do I know if the results can be better than that. Timneys are normally not the most refined triggers, but they are very serviceable, and provide clean trigger pulls - if sometimes not quite as light as I'd prefer. For a big bore, I'm positive they'll be fine, though. The 1 lbs minimum pull Timney advertizes for the CZ unit is a good deal lighter than needed for a big bore - IMHO.

- mike

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Originally posted by mho:
The whole idea is to REMOVE the set trigger option!!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to disable the "set" feature on the factory trigger. Simply turn the screw "in" to remove the slack. Okay, what else should we solve today?

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Originally posted by mho:A colleague of mine had the CZ standard (set - shudder) trigger modified in his .416 Rigby. Man, what a POS that produced! I have NEVER operated a trigger with as much creep. No, not just take up, pure creep. It was horrifying.

The majority of triggers can be reworked with excellent results. It just takes knowing what your doing and then knowing when to stop what you're doing. Knowledge is the key.

well, the question at hand is timney triggers...
for 90 bucks retail, and 15 mins "work" it looks like an easy job for diy'ER

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.as...ACTION+RIFLE+TRIGGER

BUT,if i ever wanted a big bore CZ with a great set trigger, i'll be sure to send to malm, if i wanted to keep that complex mechanism

jeffe

After having this trigger in for awhile, I really do like it. I never did much adjusting on my original trigger, but have played around with this one quite a bit....just looking at the original trigger, with all its parts, I can't help but think it is a malfunction waiting to happen.
Again, my opinion, and although I never had any trouble, nor have any of my friends who have them, I still sleep better at night.
Mark S. Sent you another PM.

I can't see any reason to put that CZ trigger on a rifle for shooting big game, except mabey on somthing like a 25,06 for open country antilope or deer hunting.
Not yet been to africa,(I am saving though)
But I want a simple rifle, no unnecisary parts.
The CZ with a reworked stock and the timney would work for me.
I have timney triggers on several mausers a springfield and a ruger and mabye more I can't think of and I like them real well...tj3006

Here's a pic of one done by Tom Burgess. very nice, solid, adjustible trigger.

Duane Wiebe said it better than anyone:

"...your social finger...."

flaco

The factory trigger is horrible.

I replaced mine with the Timney .. couldn't be happier! To answer the question .. the sear is the same, the trigger is a drop in replacement. The sear is finicky. If you have the trigger weight too heavy the sear won't pop up during the cocking cycle.

I stoned some mill marks off the face of the sear ever so slightly .. I have a super 3 pound SIMPLE trigger now.

I am happy! Plus .. like said earlier .. the trigger sits further back in the guard .. making it much more comfortable.

I've mentioned this before...we have a prototype for the CZ and are simply assuming you're either going to weld a new lever (further back) or a Timney replacement. The original trigger lever ends up about in the center of the guard,

Once a disabled the set mechanism and adjusted the CZ trigger it was as good as any Timney I've ever had.

Dennis Olson adjusted my factory trigger and he thought it was as good as any aftermarket trigger. It seems quite good to me.