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I recently went throught the exercise of getting a BRNO ZKK 600 rifle and a 1952 Model 70 for custom rifle projects. My original plan was fuzzy but it was 280 Remington on the Model 70 and a 9.3x62 on the BRNO. Dollars are sitting with my smith to get one started, but over the last couple of weeks I have been plagued with indecision, and its real close to permantent decision time. I want a good shooting 7mm out of this, thats a known. All was going well until Allen Day did his write up on the 7mm Saum, and I got to thinking why not get a 7mm Saum in a model seven. This was coupled with my thoughts are the Model 70 action is big, reletively heavy, and a 280 in this action seems kind of a waste of a whole lot of effort. My logic is I went through the effort of geeting a really good Model 70 action, why not use it for something more suitable. Random thoughts of the moment are 300 H&H, 404 Jeff, 7mm Rem/Weatherby/STW, 338-06, 9.3x62. I really don't need another 30 cal anything, I have a pre 64 70 375 H&H, and frankly I doubt I would ever really need a 404 ( I know it not about need, but I would like some practicality in this). Anyway because the BRNO is a small ring it seems a 7x57 or a 280 on that action makes more sense. I would note although I am not recoil shy, I don't see much purpose of cranking up this scale unless I have a reason, and my two sons perform better in 30-06 or less recoil range. Thoughts are around 8 1/2 lbs or on the model 70, so a "light" rifle isn't really what I had envisioned. If I went to a big mag I might add another 1/2-1 pund to that weight total. Any suggestions? I was wanting to have at least one of these started in the next two weeks. | ||
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What are the magazines and actions set up for now? The ZKK might look nice as a carbine full or half stocked. With the long magazine it can be anything up thru a 9.3. This rifle may be old and dented but it's nice. It's very handy to carry as it's narrow yet it holds six and weighs seven. Do you have a link to the article by Allen Day or is it in a magazine? As to the M7 and SAUM's I think that the Kimber rifles have far more to offer in features that I like. Not sure if you want a composite stock or not but Kimbers go from five to six pounds in 7mm-08 and 7mm WSM. If I had the money for a custom smith on those other projects I would not bother with a M7. Join the NRA | |||
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The 70 action was a 06, but opening it up doesn't concern me, small cost in the overall job if I decide to go that way. The Brno 601 is a 270 winchester currently. Oh I went through the effort to get a 70 with excellent condition steel bottom metal so I wasn't planning on changing it. | |||
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Does your zkk look like this? If so for a small fee you could have the monte carlo removed along with the spacers and forend tip. Then shorten the barrel to 22" and have a barrel band sling swivel added. Join the NRA | |||
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Slightly differnt stock. Forend is the same but not near the drop at the rear. Same trigger, can't really see the scope mount stuff in the pic but shoulld have a little pop up on the rear. But that looks to be a slightly different version of the same rifle. Edit: I am not a fan of 27 cal, and the barrel is going to replaced, that much is certain. | |||
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Well the 270 is sort of an American 7mm. If it shoots well now that would be the path of least resistance. Join the NRA | |||
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The Brno I pictured above is a 7X57 on a long action. It's a light handy rifle as it is. One in 280 Rem or 7X64 would be the same weight if you like those cartridges. Something like this. Join the NRA | |||
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Yeah your right on that would save a lot of hassle and dollars. But I bought it for the action really I wouldn't be happy with a 270 its not a 7mm. Its a personal prejudic I know, but a 270 would be just another rifle in the rack I would never shoot, unless I got one of my boys interested, and they would still be wiggling to get my 7x57. I also have a very big selection of 7mm projectiles on my bench, I'm not looking right now but 1000-1500 rounds is a conservative estimate. I have only 2 partial boxes of 27 cal and maybe 40 loaded rounds. | |||
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The Brno I bought for a 7x57 or a 280, and that I am very comfortable with. But that makes fiddling with 280 and the model 70 even more pointless. | |||
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Closer, take the forend of the first, and add it to the first pic and you just about got it. No barrel band though. There must have been a lot of subtle variances in these rifles. I like #2 by the way, but isn't that a ZKM? Mine has the single set trigger which I am not planning on changing. | |||
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Just have your smith cut off the muzzle brake and here you go. Brno 21h I don't think any smith on this good green earth could build a rifle as nice as that one, sans brake, for $2000. Join the NRA | |||
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Unfortunately for me my ZZK isn't ever going to be a 21H. Even throwing dollars at it won't get me there. Ray A, had one up for sale while back also. it seems it was a 9.3x62. Thoughts were to rebarrel this to a 7mm for the time bing and a new from scratch stock later, as I was planning on starting the model 70 first. | |||
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Bob Hagel is from your home state. He shot a 7mm Mashburn Super with a longish barrel. What could be better than that? Make the M70 into a long range 7mm. Take a look at Clymers site and see how close the 7mm Mashburn Super is to the 7mm Weatherby Magnum. I bought some 375 Weatherby brass the other day and it chambers just fine in my 375 AI! Join the NRA | |||
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For the M70 a 7mmWeatherby. The ZKK, I'd turn into a Mannlicher beauty in 9.3x62. Cheers... Con | |||
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