Forrest-

My sentiments mirror those of mrlexma. Your rifles are worthy of all of the supurlatives stated by all, and then some.

Thank you for sharing these images with us.

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Originally posted by mrlexma:
Forrest,

Okay, so for how many years has Duane Wiebe been your personal armorer?

These rifles are far, far beyond excellent. And when combined with the others whose pictures you've so kindly shared with us mere mortals must have occupied many thousands of hours of Mr. Wiebe's valuable time.

I love them. They are true masterworks. Anyone who, in the face of such creations, says that a master gunsmith is not an artist, is the worst and most detestable kind of Philistine!

May you and your many descendents shoot them with great pleasure.

ForrestB's contribution is that of a patron. Without a patron we would not have Mozarts music for instance.

Don should arrange for Eine Kleine Nachtmusic to play when he, Roland1 and others post pictures such as these.

Turn up your sound

Savage99

Since forrest rifles are mausers, parade or march music might be the thing

Cheers
/JOHAN

Johan,

The selection of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik is my choice of an expample of the best of the best music. The subject rifles are not Mausers but a compulation of the best of the best taste, imagination and artistry.

Mozart

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Here are pics of three custom rifles built on G.33/40 actions. From the top they are a full-stocked 7X57, a 280 Rem and a 6.5X55. For me, they are three perfect deer rifles.

Forrest--

Can I ask who made these rifles? They are right down the classic lines I am looking for!

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Originally posted by 333_OKH:

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Here are pics of three custom rifles built on G.33/40 actions. From the top they are a full-stocked 7X57, a 280 Rem and a 6.5X55. For me, they are three perfect deer rifles.

Forrest--

Can I ask who made these rifles? They are right down the classic lines I am looking for!

If I am not mistaken they are all Duane Wiebe built rifles.

Customstox and I tried talking Forrest into bring these rifles on our hunt this fall. We had it all planned to knock Forrest over the head and divide his rifles between us.

Forest, breathtaking...dunno what else to say.

Duane does great work. Hopefully he will not be too busy when it is time to build my rifle?

Mouth wateringly beautiful! You, sir, are a man of perfect taste and this is gun porn at it's finest!

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You, sir, are a man of perfect taste

I'll be sure to share that one with my wife. Mehul, you may be getting a call from a woman laughing hysterically into the phone.

As a side note: I've never weighed one of my rifles before, but I got an accurate electronic scale for Christmas and ever since I've been busy weighing EVERYTHING.

Following are weights (including mounted scope) for these rifles:

6.5X55 - - 8.38 lbs
7X57 - - - 8.04 lbs
280 - - - 8.58 lbs

M70 pre64s (I know little about the later rifles) are more accurate than Mausers because the receivers are thicker through the sidewalls and are stiffer. Also the position of the front guard screw, with flats under the receiver both in front and back of the screw hole, allows solider bedding than a Mauser or a 1903 Springfield. The 54 had the same stiff receiver forging as an M70 but the front guard screw goes up into the recoil lug and there is no flat in front of it. So in the 1920s and 30s the target shooters first found that the 54s outshot the 1903s but then found that the 70s outshot the 54s.

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M70 pre64s (I know little about the later rifles) are more accurate than Mausers because the receivers are thicker through the sidewalls and are stiffer. Also the position of the front guard screw, with flats under the receiver both in front and back of the screw hole, allows solider bedding than a Mauser or a 1903 Springfield. The 54 had the same stiff receiver forging as an M70 but the front guard screw goes up into the recoil lug and there is no flat in front of it. So in the 1920s and 30s the target shooters first found that the 54s outshot the 1903s but then found that the 70s outshot the 54s.

What the hell does that have to do with three of the most beautiful rifles most of us have ever seen?

Anyway, thanks for sharing them with us Forrest. They are beautiful.

I'm pretty sure it's because I brought up the subject when I said:

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I've never had anything built on a modern Model 70, but I've had some rifles built on pre-war Model 70 actions. My experience has been that a Model 70 is a little more accurate than a Mauser, all things being equal.

I didn't take any offense at all, but I was afraid someone might read it the way you did Thaine.

Thanks and I'm pleased you like seeing them too.

Forrest,
THANK YOU, besides your taste in cartridges, actions and comformation, there are two things that make this dispay outstanding for me.
First, your patronage continues a three hundred year tradition, second YOU HUNT THEM.
I'd sure like to talk with you about these things for a story sometime. Hope to meet you in Reno. I'll be there as an obsever rather than an exhibitor. I'm a huge fan of Wiebe's work.
SDH

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I'm a huge fan of Wiebe's work.

Yep, me too. This post sure put the headlights on his talent! I've ogled that picture of the 3 guns for too long as it is, startin' to hyperventilate and drool and such...wife just locked the checkbook up in her safe too. Well, ususally when I see things like this I can find a number of things I'd do differently, but here it is only one, and that's as rare as hen's teeth for me. I'd have left the iron sights off the .280 and put them on the Swede, I dunno why but I woulda...I still call it a collection of 10's though. Class work, and congratulations on having the spine to hunt with them! Many would not, and that would be their loss in my perspective.

Wow, I would whore out my grandmother for rifles like that.

Forrest,

I'm glad this thread was bounced up to the top for those who missed it when you first posted.

Those are truly beautiful rifles. I hope they'll be appreciated and used well for many generations to come.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:

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You, sir, are a man of perfect taste

I'll be sure to share that one with my wife. Mehul, you may be getting a call from a woman laughing hysterically into the phone.

Forrest,

When you tell the good lady that perfect taste was why you married her, I am sure that she would agree with me. Considering that you have had some of the most beautiful rifles that I have seen pictures of, she must be one wonderful lady. Congratulations again and best wishes!

The very first photo, showing all three the full length, is my new monitor background.

I need to buy a new keyboard, drool has short circuited the one I have.

The 7x57 is exactly what I want

Forrest, Thanks for the inspiration. I was trying to decide on a checkering pattern and I think you've helped me make up my mind, Thanks. BTW it's the rifle I was showing LB404 while you were talking to him on the phone last night.................DJ

Forrest,
Many, many thanks for posting pics of these rifles. Just absolute perfection...I really enjoy your posts!!

Wow! Wow! I just saw this thread. Beautiful rifles. That 7x57 is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in wood & steel. I've got a 358 Win in the planning stage right now that in my mind is it's twin. dream dream dream...

Thank you for sharing those pictures Mr. ForrestB, you've made my day!

Forrest,

First as a feloow G33/40 owner I just love those actions, for as a action for a custom rifle is doesn't get much better.

Looking at these I think I just got to put together a 6.5x55, think I will start with a VZ-24 though, those 33/40's are just too hard to find nowdays.

Anyway....very nice thanks for sharing your pic's of your beauties.

Forrest,the rifles are too dark.

Hey Forrset,I don't know anything about stocks.I just go by my feelings.Can you help me out on a stock choice?On the Dressel website the Turkish stock for 3k,is that worth it?What is your oppinion?It's the one on the bottom.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Forrest,the rifles are too dark.

Maybe you need to adjust your computer screen?

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Hey Forrset,I don't know anything about stocks.I just go by my feelings.Can you help me out on a stock choice?On the Dressel website the Turkish stock for 3k,is that worth it?What is your oppinion?It's the one on the bottom.

I didn't have to go to the website to answer your question. In my opinion, no stock blank is worth $3K. $600 - 1000 is plenty for my budget and my taste in wood. Again this is my opinion only, but perfect layout and a little figure in the butt is all I want in a stock. Too much figure and contrast can overpower the rest of a rifle - let the builder's efforts be the focal point of the rifle.

When building a custom rifle, think Monet not Picasso.

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ForrestB: Too much figure and contrast can overpower the rest of a rifle - let the builder's efforts be the focal point of the rifle

Exactly. How was Reno? Any new projects?

Forrest,can you tell me were I can find stocks as nice as yours for 600-1000.Even most of those that cost over 2000 don't really look that nice.

Savage,I don't like that rifle you pictured.It looks exactly like my remington varmint laminated stock rifle.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Forrest,can you tell me were I can find stocks as nice as yours for 600-1000.Even most of those that cost over 2000 don't really look that nice.

I bought two blanks from Steve Heilmann while in Reno. They were about $900 each and look better than the blanks I used on these rifles. He has the best english for the money unless you find a one-off deal somewhere. Unfortunately he doesn't show blanks on his website.

Here's a Turkish walnut blank from bestwalnut.com that is offered at $900. It looks like a nice blank for the money.




Stock Blank Link

Remember a quartersawn blank generally looks better once its shaped.

Added note: I looked at the $3,000 blank on the Dressels.com website. I'd take the Turkish blank pictured above over the Dressel blank in an even trade. That dip in the fore-end is a deal killer for me.

Forrest are you a stock maker? Thanks for taking the time and giving me your oppinion.

Forrest,If you are in the business,would you be willing to accept my project.I would like to have a custom bolt rifle on a mod.70 magnum action.I bought a winchester rifle today,and I am searching for a stock.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Forrest are you a stock maker?

Are you for real? I can't whittle a toothpick without taking off a thumb.

If I lived in Canada, I'd have Ralf Martini build the rifle. He's cheaper than most in the US (of comparable quality) and does top quality work. He has a large selection of blanks that are a bargain compared with buying one from a US dealer.

I checked ou their sight,and appears that they don't specialize in one particular are.I would like to deal with specialists.

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shootaway: I checked out their sight,and appears that they don't specialize in one particular are.I would like to deal with specialists.

Oh they're specialists OK, in anything pertaining to best quality rifles:

shootaway, no offense to you, but this should be recorded in the annals of internet absurdity. You're looking at $3,000 stock blanks on the internet, but wouldn't hire Martini & Hagn to carve it because their website doesn't appear specialized enough for your needs.

If you're serious about spending big money on a rifle, Martini is the only person in Canada I would consider for the job. Set aside any notions you get from the website, and give them a call.

Shootaway, you are milking without a bucket. Martini & Hagn are premier craftsman who make beautiful rifles..

shootaway, I would listen to what Forrest has told you. Ralf and Martin build incredible rifles, whether it be a single shot Hagn action or a bolt gun. I would not hesitate if I was you.