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This is a 300 H&H Magnum I just finished building for a long time customer in Alaska. It’s basically a rifle built around a front sight. More of that cheap and easy flattop checkering… Smithson mounts and peep sight… The finished rifle ready to head north… | ||
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Thats a big chunk of metal on the tip of that barrel,....Can you kindly expand as to why foresight has such an large crash helmet? | |||
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There's a Westley for sale in classifieds...you will see the similarity. Another nice creation of D. Wiebe. Roger Kehr Kehr Engraving Company (360)456-0831 | |||
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Here are some photos of the front sight on an original Westley Richards for sale in the classifieds. Duane's version looks nicer but I think Duane’s customer could have purchased this entire rifle for the amount he spent on that custom sight. That’s the epitome of a custom rifle. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Great stuff as usual Duane. Love the front sight. Looks like a great little project to whittle out a few thousand of them using your new minimill. I'd probably fall asleep after the second or third time pushing the green button on the same part. More coffee, more coffee! | |||
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Beautiful rifle! Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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+1, An awesome rifle.. The lines are superb...as is the entire rifle. | |||
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That it is. But as classic as it might be, I just can't warm up to the front sight configuration. | |||
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Another beautiful and functional work of art from one of the true "masters" in today's world. That is about as close to "perfect" as I ever expect to see, my humble compliments on it. | |||
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HAR! I just knew there would be comments re the front sight...wasn't disappointed! I had Forrest B post this for me..Actually the rifle was built with the constraints of the rear sight. That peep really has some altitude that of course, dictated the front sight height. I made one prototype a bit shorter, but it looked out of scale. I too had misgivings about the look, but now it's kinda of grown on me. The hood is held open with spring tension, but securely locks in the closed position via a latch. There's some "interesting" geometry doping this out. | |||
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Amazing work Duane. Really nice styling and attention to detail. After I get back from moose hunt mid-September I'll get with you about my stock project. Forrest NRA Life Member GOA Life Member Distinguished Rifleman President's Hundred | |||
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I think it looks just dandy, but then Duane's rifles all seem to look good to me. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Just an excellent job all the way around. The front sight wouldn't have been in my thought process but it is very nicely executed. I really like the Smithson mounts. j | |||
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Duane, I sure love looking at your cheap and easy flattop checkering. | |||
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The first picture with the hose clamp, I thought what the hell is this... Again, nice job! _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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Seems to me if a feller is going to put sumptin' that big on a rifle it ought to be hollered out to hold some fish hooks, xtra ammo an whatnot... Other than that small oversight, it's absolutely, drop dead, beautiful all the way back to the classic red pad. Jim | |||
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I like it too but it's too bad the rear sight was so high. How about a closer look at the cute little latch on the safety lever? Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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I was wondering when someone was going to bring that up! The peep was so high that I could not find off the shelf parts that would get the FRONT high enough... So...I bent a piece of stock to approximate a sight, took it out and sighted it in...that gave me the necessary front sight height... | |||
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Jim, I like to put my hollered-out places back where there's some ROOM! (G) Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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That's an off the shelf part from Recknagel, you can get them rom NECG. The little lever has to be depressed to push off the safety flag. At first I thought...this is BS..but know what? it's very natural to be depressing that little lever while pushing the flag to the fire position. Bottom line....pretty good idea! | |||
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Nicely done Duane! Did you open the action up, or was it already done? Do you have any pictures? for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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You know what I like best about it. You finished it before Forrest's! Absolutely beautiful. I would love to see it in 10 years of good honest use in Alaska with lots of character. | |||
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Do I have photos of the "opening up" sequence? you ask?..Well, I think I've shown this in other threads..but I basically use a 5 degree ball nose carbide cutter to open the rails to match the bottom metal (In this case our SMP 3MX) We have moved the back wall to the rear as far as practical without requiring a new bolt stop. From that point, I'd refer to the post "Making it feed" If this is not what you need, feel free to contact me...I'll tell you everything I know (Won't take very long) | |||
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Beautiful rifle. I am warming up to front sight. The sight alone is a gunbuilding masterpiece. Mike | |||
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one word- AWESOME!!!!!! a question- how much roughly would it run to have the exact same rifle look, caliber and all, built with just a regular style front blade sight? seriously *We Band of 45-70er's* "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt- | |||
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Outstanding work! Dont cotton too the mouse trap up front but if thats what the client wants........ It takes real talent to get it to flow as well as it does. | |||
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First of all, thanks for sharing. Again Duanes work is as inspiering as it is outstanding. How well one likes its final shape is a personal matter, but the work itself is top class. I applaude the owners wish of higher comb and irons to get a closer fit on stock for both irons and scope. Personally I would have picked another style for sutch a hight front sight, but as long as the client is happy, I guess all is good. Bent Fossdal Reiso 5685 Uggdal Norway | |||
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All my prices are on my website. www.customgunandrifle.com | |||
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Bee-yootiful; after, of course, cleaning up the milk and cookies from the 'puter screen from the first photo. Thanks for the big grin! | |||
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My Brother-in-law once told me:"You know you've arrived when somebody faxes you $1,000,000." Well, you know you've arrived when you can get one of Duane's rifles and take it hunting. | |||
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beautiful, what a magazine rifle should look like NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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I guess I am stupid. When the hood is in place, you use the smaller front sight and the rear peep for "precision" and when it is folded back, the larger bead pops up and you use the express rear sight? Correct? New sight to me. Westley Richards made this first? Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Me too!! My old eyes have a tough time using any receiver sight, but TWO on one barrel???? I don't understand that (course, the older I get, the more I realize that I truly understand very little.) Would someone please explain how that is suppose to work. PS, very very nice work, just exquisite. | |||
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...There's ONE receiver sight and it's on....the Receiver! The photo I took illustrates the full line up of sights available...peep or open..or...scope Perhaps you mean two beads?? This is also commonplace, especially on African guns. The larger bead ( made from Wart hog tusk) is sometimes called a "night sight" It should be pointed out that the receiver peep is removeable and can be stored in the trap door grip cap | |||
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Can't say that front is my thing...to each his own Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Of course you are correct, I should have said two open sights, one receiver sight on the receiver, one open sight on the barrel. The question should have been, do the blades on the V open barrel sight flip down out of the way? If not, how does the receiver peep sight work with the barrel mounted open sight in place? The eye usually centers the bead in the peep, but with the lower 1/2 of the sight picture obliterated by a fixed blade on the open V barrel sight, how can that work? A different question. I understand the barrel sight is an emergency back up and will work fine with the scope and receiver sight gone, but does the larger front bead raise the point of impact significantly? I would think a larger bead in the V of the blade must raise the muzzle a bit, maybe just not enough to matter at the distances one would use that bead. | |||
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RogerR: I make 'em as they want them! Actually, the peep can be used over the open's Your eye will center everything up Would it have been "better" to have a folding open...maybe so...again not my decision. You bring up a good point. The dead center of the larger bead is on the same plane as the smaller bead...center to center! If you use the bead to imitate point of impact....all is well...If you use a 6 o'clock hold...yeah...could be different. The fact is that most shooters use the point of impact system..myself included. Never could get used to the 6 o' clock hold except in handguns | |||
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If you go back and look at a lot of the rifles made by Hoffman arms in the 1920s and 1930s many had Qtr rib sights along with Lyman receiver sights so it isn't a new concept. You can find G&H rifles like this too. | |||
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Nice work Duane but like a few others I can't warm to the front sight setup. Not sure what your client is trying to achieve. The 300H&H is not a true DG rifle where the peep sight combined with the day and night beads would be used, and then to put a rear safari style V sight into the mix seems a little odd. All these sights are having to be set up high because of the scope ring bases. Low bases and rings with a straight barreled say 2-6x vari scope would have allowed the creation of a multi purpose rifle with nice low open sights for DG and a low mounted scope for PG. My thoughts anyway and again great craftsmanship in what you have achieved. Got into a bit of a stoush once with a writer here in NZ posting a magazine article on a nice custom job but having, as I call them, the European carry handle i.e. scopes mounted in those infernally high mounts and rings. I know, I know there are reasons for them, bolt lift, changeability, large objective lenses, etc. I have spent a year in Germany/Austria hunting so have had max exposure to this sort of scope mounting system. Not for me I'm afraid. The writers reply when I suggested low Weaver bases and rings was that you do not put cheap stuff on custom guns. Well bugger me perhaps so, but I'm interested in huntability not some snobby lookability. | |||
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