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26 January 2024, 14:59
metal
Mauser Bolt Welding.
Thought I'd show how I go about doing a full penetration weld on a bolt handle.
First I form a curve on the stub , it's way easier to do it first up. Make the cut leaving enough material so after shaping the face ends up flush with the side of the receiver.



I have a hydraulic tube clamp which I utilise to keep everything square to the sander.






Next you will need a jig to hold everything accurately and a copper heat sink.



I prep the handle with about a 30 degree angle and I also remove material from the back of the shaft. This helps to give plenty of scope clearance without having to scallop out the front face.



Set it up in the jig.





Put three or so tacks in from the front to form a root pass. The welder is set on 90 amps and I pulse each bead in with the foot pedal, no more than 4 so as to keep heat input to a minimum.




Next I make a 1 pass from the back, pulsing each bead, backing off then laying another. Important tip - keep the handle vertical. Heat loves to travel up!
This handle will be welded with virtually no heat transfer to the bolt body or camming surface.



Then I build up the front enough to allow a nice curve to be filed in to the transition.



I then fill the back in, pulsing small amounts at a time so as to control the heat and to avoid overheating the steel which can lead to the dreaded pits. Take your time, add some metal then leave it to cool slightly then go again, no more than 4 pulses at a time.
Again remember to keep the handle vertical, most of the heat will travel up and away from the bolt body.



Next build up the sides and you're done.




Now file the sides flat.




Now comes the artistic part, I use chainsaw files mainly. They are cheap but very good quality, Husky, Stihl, Vallorbe etc.









26 January 2024, 16:10
p dog shooter
Thanks for the pictures.

Looks very nice.
26 January 2024, 17:51
clowdis
Excellent tutorial, thanks!


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26 January 2024, 20:09
Clemson
Good looking handle!
Thank you!


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26 January 2024, 20:25
lee440
Are you using a Tig welder?


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26 January 2024, 20:40
tsturm
Nice work!! tu2


26 January 2024, 22:57
richj
cool, thanks
27 January 2024, 00:30
metal
quote:
Originally posted by lee440:
Are you using a Tig welder?

Yes.
27 January 2024, 05:41
setters5
Very nice, thanks for posting.
27 January 2024, 08:55
dpcd
Nice. I don't file them; I use a belt sander.
27 January 2024, 20:47
kendog
Very nice!!
27 January 2024, 21:29
WoodHunter
Umm good stuff. Showed up at the right time as I have a few handles to weld and need to improve my technique.

Have a TIG setup and a jig. Like DPCD, I use a belt sander. Plus, a ton of files, including chainsaw type for the fillets.

Whose handle is than, or did you turn it? I like the straight drop instead of the Curvey types most guys use. Looks really good.
28 January 2024, 01:18
brnomauser
Masterful work metal, the result is absolutely on point and no corners cut. I really need to up my handle game…

Do you ever use a blow gun to cool between passes?
28 January 2024, 01:37
metal
Sure do, just around the cocking cam.
28 January 2024, 01:41
metal
quote:
Originally posted by WoodHunter:
Umm good stuff. Showed up at the right time as I have a few handles to weld and need to improve my technique.

Have a TIG setup and a jig. Like DPCD, I use a belt sander. Plus, a ton of files, including chainsaw type for the fillets.

Whose handle is than, or did you turn it? I like the straight drop instead of the Curvey types most guys use. Looks really good.

Yes my father turned up a heap of them.
29 January 2024, 02:01
Kolo-Pan
I admit to being illiterate when it comes to welding, but with all due respect I think they look better when the are left round until they just kiss that bolt stub.




KJK
29 January 2024, 03:19
dpcd
No one ever sees the underside so it can be any shape the installer wants to use.
29 January 2024, 06:22
Kolo-Pan
I would change that word "installer" to "customer".


KJK
29 January 2024, 06:41
dpcd
I find the customer to often, if not usually, wrong and I do it however I think the best way is. The customer does not tell me how to weld a bolt handle on. I do make them round underneath though.
30 January 2024, 22:00
Dans40XC
Incorporate a 360 brass Purge Device w/ 10cfh purge instead of the steel bolt body fixture stud to dissipate heat & keep atmosphere at bay.

Your "Pulse" technique appears to be multiple tac welds.

Run the pass w/a few drops of filler...
Get on it
Get off it

First tac welds should be from the underside to allow any/easy carbon removal from the top side to eliminate porosity.


If/when using copper coated filler rod,remove the copper w/ a piece of emory cloth for better color match of the parent material.
31 January 2024, 00:11
foxhound
Nice job!


DRSS
31 January 2024, 02:09
tsturm
quote:
Originally posted by Dans40XC:
Incorporate a 360 brass Purge Device w/ 10cfh purge instead of the steel bolt body fixture stud to dissipate heat & keep atmosphere at bay.

Your "Pulse" technique appears to be multiple tac welds.

Run the pass w/a few drops of filler...
Get on it
Get off it

First tac welds should be from the underside to allow any/easy carbon removal from the top side to eliminate porosity.


If/when using copper coated filler rod,remove the copper w/ a piece of emory cloth for better color match of the parent material.


As a comparison look at the shit mauser bolt handle welding on X40 boys page tu2 rotflmo


31 January 2024, 07:18
Dans40XC
As a comparison look at the shit mauser bolt handle welding on X40 boys page tu2 rotflmo[/QUOTE]

Dumb Fuck,
I don't weld Black Smith produced Mauser...JUNK...for multiple reasons.


Keep'em in the X ring,
DAN

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31 January 2024, 07:40
dpcd
Seems a nerve was hit but I can't figure out whose it was.....
What is a blacksmith produced Mauser? I want to see one.
31 January 2024, 14:09
MD375
Very nice work Metal!

If I may ask, what happens to the action or other components should things go south?
31 January 2024, 14:38
metal
Do you mean if the bolt gets ruined? Never happens. Cheers.
31 January 2024, 21:58
WoodHunter
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Seems a nerve was hit but I can't figure out whose it was.....
What is a blacksmith produced Mauser? I want to see one.


I am ready. Have a bunch of scrap steel laying behind the shop including some giant rebar. Time to start pounding iron!

3 anvils in the shop and a fourth out back by the forge. Cannot get much better than this!








31 January 2024, 22:05
WoodHunter
quote:
Originally posted by Dans40XC:
As a comparison look at the shit mauser bolt handle welding on X40 boys page tu2 rotflmo


Dumb Fuck,
I don't weld Black Smith produced Mauser...JUNK...for multiple reasons.[/QUOTE]

Is this one??????


01 February 2024, 01:29
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Enjoyed this post! Round or square bottom? I like square since I have the imagination this acts as a secondary safety lug...Make sense?

And.the cocking cam....I'm guessing I'm from the old school...I just weld with no concern, then reharden the cam. Good...bad?
01 February 2024, 02:49
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Seems a nerve was hit but I can't figure out whose it was.....
What is a blacksmith produced Mauser? I want to see one.


i am fairly certain most of us barrel plumbers and tock whittlers do some blacksmithing, too ...


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01 February 2024, 13:48
metal
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Enjoyed this post! Round or square bottom? I like square since I have the imagination this acts as a secondary safety lug...Make sense?

And.the cocking cam....I'm guessing I'm from the old school...I just weld with no concern, then reharden the cam. Good...bad?[/QUOTE

I do like the way you do your bolts Duane, my handles are all round turned so I have to work with what I’ve got.
No harm in re-hardening the cam, I just try to avoid that extra step.
04 February 2024, 03:32
Ben351w
Very nicely done. For sure not the only way but the results speak for themselves! Great job!