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03 December 2006, 06:55
Mike_DettorreWhat kind a dremel cutting wheel...
...to cut a typicak box wrench. My all purpose rifle has scope rings that attach witj a 7/16 hex nut and I would like to cut a box wrench in half to throw in my pack.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
03 December 2006, 07:10
djpaintlesJust use the thin metal cutting disk that's usually included, the one with the slot head screw in top.
Please be sure and wear safety glasses! The thin disk likes to fly apart if they get in any kind of bind. It may take a spare or two..................DJ
....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!..................
03 December 2006, 09:46
JLarssonCould you epoxy a 1/4" Allen wrench into a 1/4" drive 7/16" socket? Might be just as handy.
Not that there's anything wrong with cutting your wrench in half.
Jon Larsson - Hunter - Shooter - Reloader - Mostly in that order...
03 December 2006, 19:00
D HumbargerYou can stack several disk together for more rigidity too.
Doug Humbarger
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03 December 2006, 19:46
Fjoldquote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
You can stack several disk together for more rigidity too.
It takes a lot longer to cut with stacked disks because of the amount of material being removed.
Cutting is easy but they do sell short wrenches.
Frank
"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
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03 December 2006, 20:02
GSP7Use a hack saw
03 December 2006, 23:18
tnekkcc10 years ago I had a guy over building FALs and a carpender putting in baseboard.
There was a chopped reciever stuck on the barrel and the FAL builder grabbed the carpender's Dremel, found a 426 wheel, an arbor [ Mandrel: 402], and cut off the hardened receiver along the line of the interuped thread on the barrel.
I was impressed.
I got a Dremel, 402 Mandrel, and some 426 wheels.
The 426 wheels cost ~ $8/5 = $1.60/ wheel
http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Dremel_Dremel_426_Fibreglas...R~RFR-www.google.comEach wheel could probablly cut off one shotgun barrel before worn down to the nub.
I tried the 409 cuttoff wheels, but they are no good.
That is a shame too, becuase 409 are $3.85/36 = $0.11/ wheel
When you look at how the 409 wheel is made, it looks like a waffle. The same kind of wheels in much larger diameters can be had for $1/ wheel from Enco and other industial suppliers. My air compresser cannot keep my die grinder turning, so I am, for now, stuck with the Dremel OEM rip off prices.
quote:
GSP7: Get a hack saw.
I find that a new Starrett bi-metal hack saw blade in a Lennox High Tension Hack Saw frame, tuned to middle C, will cut 1,000 times faster than my liberal brother-in-law's dull conventional hack saw blade in a conventional frame.
I do not use the Dremel and 426 wheels on Mauser bolt handles. I use the hack saw.
03 December 2006, 23:44
Tex21quote:
Use a hacksaw
Tool steel is hard. Use a torch.
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
04 December 2006, 00:00
GSP7Torch is good
04 December 2006, 01:11
jeffeossoyou guys' didn't tell mikie to actually USE a dremel tool, much less with a cutoff wheel?
i need to call the police and have them do a welfare check... shesh...
mike,
the thin "fiber" looking wheel will do it... just take it slow and change them fairly often... WHEN you shatter the first couple (because they break), back off and grind a bit slower/less cut
jeffe
04 December 2006, 04:08
lawndartquote:
I find that a new Starrett bi-metal hack saw blade in a Lennox High Tension Hack Saw frame, tuned to middle C, will cut 1,000 times faster than my liberal brother-in-law's dull conventional hack saw blade in a conventional frame.
I do not use the Dremel and 426 wheels on Mauser bolt handles. I use the hack saw.
Thank you, you made my week.
LD
04 December 2006, 09:15
MarkMike-
Do this on the corner of a grinding wheel.
Grind a V into one side of the wrench, turn over and put a V on the other side. The 2 will either meet or come very close to where you can bend it and snap it. Now dress up the corners and you're done. I've cut a ton of wrenches this way, making short handled 7/8" wrenches for removing oxygen sensors and stuff.
With a decent grinder and a pot of water you'll be done before you could put the little cut-off arbor into the dremel chuck, or put on a new hacksaw blade for that matter.
for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside
04 December 2006, 18:17
Mike_DettorreYou guys really have never seen my garage have ya?
Thanks for all the tips...but you guys have never realy seen my garage?
Grinding wheel? High tension hack saw?
Sheesh...now I have to find the dremel tool...
Can you really epoxy metal to metal?
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
04 December 2006, 18:18
<xs headspace>Most hardware stores carry the thin 1/16" or 1/8" cutoff wheels for disc grinders. You can use them in a bench grinder, just punch out the hole to the right size. PS The 1/8" wheels do a great job of fluting a mauser or Win70 firing pin, to speedlock the thing. Just water-dip the pin every 15 seconds to keep it cool.
04 December 2006, 20:34
MarkMike,
Well if your garage is that basic just clamp your 7/16 wrench in a vise, put a pipe on the part sticking up and snap it off. Might take 2-3 bends.
Then wrap the ugly end in electrical tape and you're done if you don't have a grinder to clean it up.
for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside
04 December 2006, 20:58
Paul HIf you're using the little emory wheels (they have their place) the key to keep them from exploding is to soak them with super glue. They are much tougher, and still cut fairly quicly due to the thin kerf.
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04 December 2006, 23:08
webtaz99Check Harbor Freight. They have diamond coated Dremel cutoff wheels cheap.
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05 December 2006, 08:18
Mike_DettorreMark,
That is a wonderful idea...vise, pipe, pull, bend, snap, electrical tape...now that is sumptin I can work with.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
05 December 2006, 08:26
Swamp_Foxquote:
Originally posted by GSP7:
Use a hack saw
What he said. You will be done faster than with the dremmel.
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05 December 2006, 18:03
Hot CoreHey Mike, Just hang it on a Target at 100yds and "shoot" it in to.
If it is too wide for your bullet at 100yds, just take it on back to 300yds and it will be "smaller".
06 December 2006, 03:15
djpaintlesI'm thinking it probably takes longer to read this thread than to cut off the wrench with his dremel!.................DJ
....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!..................
06 December 2006, 06:18
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Mark:
... if you don't have a grinder to clean it up.
oh jesus, i am calling san fran 911 for an ambulance......
jeffe
06 December 2006, 07:12
Mike_DettorreDet Cord...that is the ticket...
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
06 December 2006, 07:13
jeffeossofunny enough, i trust you with detcord....
but sharp, or rotating, or abrasive, or hot tools... those, well, I can get superglue and bandaids at the hardware store!!
jeffe
06 December 2006, 23:02
fritz454Mike, go to your local hardware store and pick up a 7/16" nut driver. Looks like a screwdriver but has a socket on the end.
07 December 2006, 00:48
bradheMike,
If you want to bring it over to Hillsborough, I have a pretty well equipped shop at home and could do this any number of ways. By the way, saw your Boar at West Coast a couple of weeks ago when I picked up some stuff. Very nice
Brad
07 December 2006, 07:09
Mike_DettorreFritz/John,
Duh..why didn't I think of that. Now wonder you have the PhD.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
07 December 2006, 07:56
Bill Cooleyquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
...to cut a typicak box wrench. My all purpose rifle has scope rings that attach witj a 7/16 hex nut and I would like to cut a box wrench in half to throw in my pack.
If you have a belt sander you can use the edge of the belt to cut the wrench. cut a notch from both sides or make it a circular cut you onley need to go about 80% of the way through then put in a vice and "TAP" it and it will brake the rest of the way. Yes I know it's probley not politicaley corect but it workes.
Saves all that time looking for the Dremel tool look for the disk go to a couple of stores looking for disk ect. I do like the det cord idea, would that be 1 or 2 wraps??
Bill
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