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I'M in negotiations with Paula Abdul for the host position

No comment on that as there are women and children that read these forums

Bolt is still hanging on strong

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Mike,

Your statement sort of signifies one of the traits that I admire, and see often in my Australian friends. They seem to be far more concerned with “doing†something, rather than with the how, or with what, it is “done.â€

I like that in a person.

Um, thanks, (I think) and WE have to put up with New Zealanders who are the original "doers".
To add to Mike378, a lot of our shooting IS high volume as on mobs of pigs, where we used to use semi auto's, and now lots of push feeds and no reports of jamming problems that I've
heard. But then we can shoot anytime or weekends for free, and a minor falure to feed is no big deal.
John L>

Was this thread about Rem bolt handles comming off?, heck we'd just go to the nearest farm shed and weld it back on.
JL.

Farmers around here clamp on a vicegrip....there's lots of Remmys in closets here with vicegrips on them.

Folks usually never notice. Once in a while someone asks me to just weld on the vicegrips too.

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Originally posted by JAL:

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Mike,

Your statement sort of signifies one of the traits that I admire, and see often in my Australian friends. They seem to be far more concerned with “doing†something, rather than with the how, or with what, it is “done.â€

I like that in a person.

Um, thanks, (I think) and WE have to put up with New Zealanders who are the original "doers".
To add to Mike378, a lot of our shooting IS high volume as on mobs of pigs, where we used to use semi auto's, and now lots of push feeds and no reports of jamming problems that I've
heard. But then we can shoot anytime or weekends for free, and a minor falure to feed is no big deal.
John L>

John,

It was meant as a compliment...no hidden meaning!

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Originally posted by vapodog:
Farmers around here clamp on a vicegrip....there's lots of Remmys in closets here with vicegrips on them.

Folks usually never notice. Once in a while someone asks me to just weld on the vicegrips too.

That is one way to do it, but then they are simply mistaken for M70s.

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That is one way to do it, but then they are simply mistaken for M70s.

A man here run an add in the paper: FOR SALE: Winchester .30-06...etc.

I went to look and it was a Remington and I told him that it wasn't a winchester. He said it had to be...it still had the bolt handle on it.

Mine are STILL on! But I'm watching and listening.

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Originally posted by Hot Core:
That is one way to do it, but then they are simply mistaken for M70s.

It has always been my understanding that bolts simply fall off from the violent shaking encountered from bouts with "buck fever".
People, its the shaking the bolts can't take not the hammering. This is known as shaken bolt syndrome.

So how many Remington 700’s do you think have been made since it’s introduction in 1962? Several million?

I know that as of 1986 just under two and a quarter million had been made, so I think it would be safe to say that total production has probably reached something like five or six million by now.

How many of those five or six million 700’s had the bolt handles come off? Let’s be real generous and say 250. Wow...a whopping .00004% of 700’s had the bolt handle come loose! What a POS rifle, huh?

Ok...lets now include the failed extractors, the excess headspace reported, the failed J-Lock, the poor bluing and the incredible number of complaints I've read of the Remington customer service.

The bolt handles are the tip of the iceberg

Yes, I too have not bought any bad product from Remington.....but then I don't buy anything from them. The 722 I own and the four 700 rifles I owned were at least twenty years ago.....all were very fine guns....... The reports I'm reading are all recent in the last year or two.

Be your own judge

Vapodog,

Contact Winchester Australia (or Olin I think it is now called) and ask them about CRF M70s and PF M70s.

I personally don't like Rem 700s, although I have used a lot of then in bench style rifles for field use. The "glue in" suits them. You can get the trigger out etc.

The rivot in the extractor and the recoil lug causes me to break out in hives.

BUT, the work. Pro roo shooters use them. When the fox skins were the go the few full time fox shooters used them.

They are popular in Australia where the average keen shooter will shoot more animals in one day and one night than most Americans would shoot in 6 life times.

A staggered feed CRF is certainly (in my opinion) the nicest action to watch working when it is cycling cartridges. Great in the lounge room over a Red or a scotch. Great in Africa where only a few shots will be fired.

But do a search on the Gunsmithing forum and for all the Rem 700s sold you will find it hard to find postings that relate to feeding problems and bolt handles falling off. That area (ie. non functioning) belongs to Mauser and the newer CRF M70s.

As I said above, I don't like Rem 700s. But there are many foods I don't like but those same foods provide good nourishment (Spelling?)

Mike

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Originally posted by vapodog:
Ok...lets now include the failed extractors, the excess headspace reported, the failed J-Lock, the poor bluing and the incredible number of complaints I've read of the Remington customer service.

The bolt handles are the tip of the iceberg

Yes, I too have not bought any bad product from Remington.....but then I don't buy anything from them. The 722 I own and the four 700 rifles I owned were at least twenty years ago.....all were very fine guns....... The reports I'm reading are all recent in the last year or two.

Be your own judge

I have never bought a Remington rifle...only Remington actions that have been built into rifles. This topic is not about factory rifle fit and finish, it is about the sturdiness, or lack of, of the brazed on bolt handles.

I have stated this many times on here, and will state it again. The USMC has been using unaltered Remington 700 actions for their M40 series of sniper rifles since late 1966. Granted, the actions are blue printed...but they use nothing but factory Remington extractors, bolt handles, triggers and safeties with no alterations or modifications, other than tig welding the mag box and the recoil lug to the receiver.

The armorers at Quantico have the authority to adopt any friggin aftermarket parts they think will do a better job when building the M40 rifles. The only non-Remington parts on those rifles are the barrels and the stocks. The receiver is nothing more and nothing less than a blue printed factory action that has been clip slotted. No Sako extractors...and no tig welded or screwed on bolt handles.

If there was a problem with extractors breaking
or failing and/or bolt handles falling off, the Marines would have addressed it years ago. To date they haven’t done so, and I will guarantee you that those rifles get fired, used, and abused far more than any civilian 700’s do.

This topic always reminds me of the big “low numbered“ 1903 bugaboo. Everyone always conveniently forgets that every single 1903 Springfield rifle used in WWI was a low numbered rifle...and about 80% to 90% of all 1903’s used by the Marines on Guadalcanal were low numbered rifles.Almost all of the 1903 Springfield Marine Sniper rifles were built on low numbered receivers.

Most reports that I have read about rifle (any brand) failures/malfunctions normally start with something like this: “I was at the range the other day testing out the new super-dooper handloads I had been working up, and all of a sudden...â€

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Originally posted by vapodog:
...I too have not bought any bad product from Remington.....but then I don't buy anything from them. The 722 I own and the four 700 rifles I owned were at least twenty years ago.....all were very fine guns...

Hey Vapodog, That sure explains "Why" you don't buy them - .....all were very fine guns...

I used to own a whole bunch of (rag) Pre-64 M70s and their accuracy left a lot to be desired. Just a poor design.
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Hey Mike378, You spelled "food" correctly.
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Bolt handles STILL in the "ON" position as of 5AM today.